I CAME HERE FOR HELP

 

I recently found and purchased a 601HDA that was in storage. despite a lack of paper work and NO ID plane I took on the project. After several weeks of searching I found the original owner. Mr Art Mitchell the original zenair Canada builder. I followed several leads and soon came up with the serial ID plate that had been removed many years ago after the plane was purchased from Mr. Mitchell for reason we will not talk about.

So I have been in a constant pile of red tape and goverment crap getting the plane flying again with the original C-IIIA markings and dash plate.

 The plane checked out, good bill of health yet she remains grounded. I was told recently that it would be easier to part it out and make back the money.

I was hoping some one has a Idea, ANYONE?

hope to hear even a little support would be a great lift at this point. And many thanks to Mr Mitchell who provided me with his log books and information he kept for so many years Art keep those papers safe you have a lot of history

 

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Comment by Ron Moore on June 8, 2011 at 12:29pm

James;

Sorry to hear about your problem with the feds. Are you trying to get it registered and flying in Canada or the USA?

 

You may find help from the EAA website and pages there linking to the FAA requirements. Also listing the engine and instrument-radio info may help in the event you cannot get it re-registered to fly. There could be a builder/EAA member who has connections in getting cleared if they were to purchase it from you...which surely would bring a greater return to sell "as is" rather than parts.

 

Your plight is similar to many others who buy an non-current or un-registered plane only to discover later that the plane cannot get signed-off due to some technicaplity of missing documents, lapse of engine logs, repair logs, etc...

 

Good luck with finding a solution. It is such a shame for a finished aircraft that is flight-worthy to be grounded.

 

One solution I can think of would be to buy a set of zenith plans and whatever parts built from an unfinished project of the exact same type from an original builder who quit the project...(serial number listed of course with a record and photos of his project to date)...strip the airframe down of yours; void of paint, etc, and see if you can restructure a new set of paperwork and sign-off as if newly built from plans. By doing so you would have every inspection plate opened, every cable/assembly exposed, controls, bearings, wing attach-points, engine mount, aileron/flap hinge/surface, hose connections, etc. exposed for review of air-worthyness for a new registration which is exactly what any pilot/builder would want to inspect prior to flying anyway.

 

Flying has inherent dangers attached to what us pilots and builders love to do. Anyone who thinks that is not so is plane-stupid (pun intended). An aircraft can have every outward appearance of being airworthy...yet be ready to take a life of the unsuspecting. When a plane is sold/purchased there should be a Sherlock Holmes inspection prior to flight. The one telling statement you included that says, "for reason we will not talk about" caused this Retired Police Helicopter and Fixed-Wing Pilot to go into detective mode. Ron Moore

Comment by James Peach on June 8, 2011 at 8:56am
OH it was registed as the second plane produced by flypass and was indeed marked on the data plate HD/A figure that
Comment by James Peach on June 8, 2011 at 8:55am

Thanks Bob

We knew it woud be a struggle when we found the plane

Transport Canada also suggested Gary  I'm not a member yet but will be today

Matt had no comment but he did provide me with Mr Mitchells number who built the plane for flypass

Thing are coming together just missing a slip of sale that Transport never recieved, the plane was never registed after it was sold by flypass to the new owner. it went to storage for years Now I have it.

will keep a post of the planes out come

 

Comment by Bob McDonald on June 8, 2011 at 6:40am

What does Matt at Zenair Midland have to offer as options? He represents the original manufacturer presently.

Check with Gary Wolf at the RAA (assuming you are a member) for options.

You probably should have done all this, and checked with builders on this site prior to purchasing the aircraft.

CH601HDA (typo?) it is maybe a CH601UL ultralight version sold in Canada...very limited gross weight.. 1 person aircraft.

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