Question about wiring tools - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-29T05:44:17Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/question-about-wiring-tools?feed=yes&xn_auth=noGood advice from prior posts.…tag:zenith.aero,2020-09-14:2606393:Comment:7361722020-09-14T02:53:26.452ZSamuel McNairhttps://zenith.aero/profile/SamuelMcNr
<p>Good advice from prior posts. </p>
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<p>Some items not mentioned that you might need. </p>
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<p>If you are wiring avionics using Sub D and high density Sub D connectors (virtually every modern avionics and display units use them) you will need a special crimper for Sub D pins and a set of pin extractors (or possibly 2 sets, they bend up easily). You also need a reasonably compact heat gun for doing heat shrink. </p>
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<p>For ring terminals I use the high quality marine…</p>
<p>Good advice from prior posts. </p>
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<p>Some items not mentioned that you might need. </p>
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<p>If you are wiring avionics using Sub D and high density Sub D connectors (virtually every modern avionics and display units use them) you will need a special crimper for Sub D pins and a set of pin extractors (or possibly 2 sets, they bend up easily). You also need a reasonably compact heat gun for doing heat shrink. </p>
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<p>For ring terminals I use the high quality marine grade that are gold plated and have the integral heat shrink insulator. They are highly resistant to vibration and corrosion (and not cheap, but relatively easily available. They are as good or better than most of the terminals I have seen in aircraft. </p> Ok Thanks Bob
I had forgotten…tag:zenith.aero,2020-07-01:2606393:Comment:7267642020-07-01T15:15:30.967ZJohn Waldriphttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnWaldrip
<p>Ok Thanks Bob</p>
<p>I had forgotten about the courses they offer. I'll keep my out if one comes close by. </p>
<p>Ok Thanks Bob</p>
<p>I had forgotten about the courses they offer. I'll keep my out if one comes close by. </p> All the suggestions are excel…tag:zenith.aero,2020-07-01:2606393:Comment:7263422020-07-01T00:13:46.934ZBob Pustellhttps://zenith.aero/profile/BobPustell
<p>All the suggestions are excellent. I would add one more - consider taking the course offered by the EAA on aircraft wiring. They have courses on sheet metal work, fabric work, electrics, all kinds of stuff. I took the wiring course several years ago to refresh my memory and it is excellent.</p>
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<p>Right now Coranavirus considerations may have those workshops canceled (they are up close and personal and excellent) but maybe things will open up in time for you to take one when it comes…</p>
<p>All the suggestions are excellent. I would add one more - consider taking the course offered by the EAA on aircraft wiring. They have courses on sheet metal work, fabric work, electrics, all kinds of stuff. I took the wiring course several years ago to refresh my memory and it is excellent.</p>
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<p>Right now Coranavirus considerations may have those workshops canceled (they are up close and personal and excellent) but maybe things will open up in time for you to take one when it comes through your area. The EAA rotates the courses around the country during the year.</p>
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<p>Bob</p> Thanks Earnest
I just ordere…tag:zenith.aero,2020-06-30:2606393:Comment:7263872020-06-30T19:25:56.967ZJohn Waldriphttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnWaldrip
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<p>Thanks Earnest</p>
<p>I just ordered the book from EAA. I also have ordered the DVD from Jon Croke, (HomebuiltHelp.com). And I've downloaded the pdf files from Bob Nuchols. That should keep me busy</p>
<p>for a few days reading all this. </p>
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<p>Thanks Earnest</p>
<p>I just ordered the book from EAA. I also have ordered the DVD from Jon Croke, (HomebuiltHelp.com). And I've downloaded the pdf files from Bob Nuchols. That should keep me busy</p>
<p>for a few days reading all this. </p> John,
Check out the EAA "Airc…tag:zenith.aero,2020-06-30:2606393:Comment:7263332020-06-30T17:51:41.559ZEarnest Fontenothttps://zenith.aero/profile/EarnestFontenot
<p>John,</p>
<p>Check out the EAA "<font style="background-color: #ffffff;">Aircraft Wiring Guide</font>" book.</p>
<p><font style="background-color: #ffffff;">Earnie</font></p>
<p>John,</p>
<p>Check out the EAA "<font style="background-color: #ffffff;">Aircraft Wiring Guide</font>" book.</p>
<p><font style="background-color: #ffffff;">Earnie</font></p> Larry.
Thanks for the repl…tag:zenith.aero,2020-06-30:2606393:Comment:7263312020-06-30T16:32:43.164ZJohn Waldriphttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnWaldrip
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<p>Larry. </p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. Much work to do and every suggestion is welcomed. </p>
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<p>Larry. </p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. Much work to do and every suggestion is welcomed. </p> Hi John,
You are smart to pr…tag:zenith.aero,2020-06-30:2606393:Comment:7263282020-06-30T16:01:12.395ZLarry Zepphttps://zenith.aero/profile/LarryZepp
<p>Hi John,</p>
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<p>You are smart to pre-plan the wiring, connectors, tools and wire. It is important you follow aircraft standards for these and DO NOT use automotive grade terminals that have only a crimp onto the wire strands and no support for the wire insulation.</p>
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<p>Two brands of aircraft grade terminals are: Sta-Con and Amp PIDG from either aircraft or electrical suppliers. Use a ratcheting crimper that gives you a good crimp and learn how to use it. Draw out your…</p>
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<p>You are smart to pre-plan the wiring, connectors, tools and wire. It is important you follow aircraft standards for these and DO NOT use automotive grade terminals that have only a crimp onto the wire strands and no support for the wire insulation.</p>
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<p>Two brands of aircraft grade terminals are: Sta-Con and Amp PIDG from either aircraft or electrical suppliers. Use a ratcheting crimper that gives you a good crimp and learn how to use it. Draw out your circuits and plan for either fuses or breakers. I am wiroing my Zodiac CH 650B panel now and am using the mini automotive fuses. They save a lot of space and weight over breakers. If you go this route, get the mini fuses that have an LED in the fuse that lights to identify a blown fuse.</p>
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<p>Get some lacing cord and see a You tube video of how to lace up your wires into a bundle to avoid vibration flexing. Several wiring books are good - especially the one by Nuckols. I found that Spruce was an easy source of the correct aircraft wire in the size the circuit load needed. Good Luck! Larry Zepp, Zodiac 650B N22LZ</p> I came across this website th…tag:zenith.aero,2020-06-30:2606393:Comment:7265032020-06-30T02:15:57.421ZJohn Waldriphttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnWaldrip
<p>I came across this website that is very informative about crimping terminals, and the tools needed. Yes I know it is for Marine. But he states there is really no Marine grade. Just high quality stuff like in aerospace uses. I learned alot from the site. <a href="https://marinehowto.com/marine-wire-termination/">https://marinehowto.com/marine-wire-termination/</a></p>
<p>I came across this website that is very informative about crimping terminals, and the tools needed. Yes I know it is for Marine. But he states there is really no Marine grade. Just high quality stuff like in aerospace uses. I learned alot from the site. <a href="https://marinehowto.com/marine-wire-termination/">https://marinehowto.com/marine-wire-termination/</a></p> Thanks
I won't use automotive…tag:zenith.aero,2020-06-29:2606393:Comment:7264902020-06-29T23:41:06.647ZJohn Waldriphttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnWaldrip
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>I won't use automotive connectors in the plane. I have found that the automotive connectors that I have are way too flimsy. They bend easily, and the crimper don't always crimp too good. Sometimes you can pull the wire out without really trying. That's why I need a good crimper and AN quality terminals. I'll check out the crimpers on Amazon. </p>
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<p>I won't use automotive connectors in the plane. I have found that the automotive connectors that I have are way too flimsy. They bend easily, and the crimper don't always crimp too good. Sometimes you can pull the wire out without really trying. That's why I need a good crimper and AN quality terminals. I'll check out the crimpers on Amazon. </p> Thanks John
That was very inf…tag:zenith.aero,2020-06-29:2606393:Comment:7262972020-06-29T23:37:00.609ZJohn Waldriphttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnWaldrip
<p>Thanks John</p>
<p>That was very informative. I've got a lot to learn before starting this upgrade. I want to do it right. Thanks. </p>
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<p>Thanks John</p>
<p>That was very informative. I've got a lot to learn before starting this upgrade. I want to do it right. Thanks. </p>
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