Last Landing for N801G - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-28T09:42:42Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/last-landing-for-n801g?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI did not use it. With my cur…tag:zenith.aero,2021-03-09:2606393:Comment:8280772021-03-09T16:22:04.830ZSamuel McNairhttps://zenith.aero/profile/SamuelMcNr
<p>I did not use it. With my current 801 I threw away the original bungee that was on it and bought a heavier rated bungee from fresh stock. Then did the super cheap trick of clamping a 3/4 wide slice of radiator hose around the tube slightly above the stop ring. As long as the stop rign can't jam in the bottom strut bearing, the rudder won't lock if the bungee breaks. </p>
<p>I have about 450 hours on it and several hundred landings. </p>
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<p>I do plan to install the rubber donut…</p>
<p>I did not use it. With my current 801 I threw away the original bungee that was on it and bought a heavier rated bungee from fresh stock. Then did the super cheap trick of clamping a 3/4 wide slice of radiator hose around the tube slightly above the stop ring. As long as the stop rign can't jam in the bottom strut bearing, the rudder won't lock if the bungee breaks. </p>
<p>I have about 450 hours on it and several hundred landings. </p>
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<p>I do plan to install the rubber donut design borrowed from the 750. I had looked into something like it after the accident but couldn't find the donuts, hence the design with the spring and shock. But the donuts are simpler and robust. I am trying to finish up building my house with hanger and runway on my farm. Then i can pull the engine and do the mods in the comfort of my own hanger with everything i need to do it at hand. </p> Glad everyone came out mostly…tag:zenith.aero,2021-03-05:2606393:Comment:8275932021-03-05T18:43:22.704ZIan Robbhttps://zenith.aero/profile/IanRobb
<p>Glad everyone came out mostly unscathed. That's most important, and it looks like the airframe did it's job. </p>
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<p>Those are pretty stout airframes, I bet it's repairable without "major" parts replacement. I'd like to see it back in the air.</p>
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<p>Does Zenith offer the rubber puck nose gear suspension for the 801? Perhaps they can develop one due to your experience.</p>
<p>Glad everyone came out mostly unscathed. That's most important, and it looks like the airframe did it's job. </p>
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<p>Those are pretty stout airframes, I bet it's repairable without "major" parts replacement. I'd like to see it back in the air.</p>
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<p>Does Zenith offer the rubber puck nose gear suspension for the 801? Perhaps they can develop one due to your experience.</p> Sam - did you ever utilize th…tag:zenith.aero,2021-03-04:2606393:Comment:8276622021-03-04T21:09:18.162ZSHAWN GOANShttps://zenith.aero/profile/SHAWNGOANS
<p>Sam - did you ever utilize this mod on an 801? Curious how it worked out and roughly how many hours you had in making it happen. </p>
<p>Sam - did you ever utilize this mod on an 801? Curious how it worked out and roughly how many hours you had in making it happen. </p> BTW, Sam, you mentioned in th…tag:zenith.aero,2016-07-23:2606393:Comment:5184632016-07-23T11:12:20.454ZJohn Austinhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnLAustin
<p>BTW, Sam, you mentioned in the <a href="http://www.zenith.aero/forum/topics/wanted-to-buy-ch801" target="_blank">accident description</a> you posted in the Classified Ads that the bungee had 2 years of service life but you didn't know how old it was from manufacture. The manufacturer, SBC Industries in Scottsboro, Alabama, has a Color Code chart on <a href="http://www.sbcindustries.com/products.htm" target="_blank">this page</a> where you can look at the color of the threads in the bungee…</p>
<p>BTW, Sam, you mentioned in the <a href="http://www.zenith.aero/forum/topics/wanted-to-buy-ch801" target="_blank">accident description</a> you posted in the Classified Ads that the bungee had 2 years of service life but you didn't know how old it was from manufacture. The manufacturer, SBC Industries in Scottsboro, Alabama, has a Color Code chart on <a href="http://www.sbcindustries.com/products.htm" target="_blank">this page</a> where you can look at the color of the threads in the bungee cover and determine the year and quarter of manufacture.</p>
<p>I once asked SBC for a recommendation for shelf life/service life for the bungees but they said that SBC had no specific recommendation and "to go by what the airplane manufacturer says."</p>
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<p>John</p> Attached are a couple of file…tag:zenith.aero,2016-07-22:2606393:Comment:5180812016-07-22T02:45:27.571ZSamuel McNairhttps://zenith.aero/profile/SamuelMcNr
<p>Attached are a couple of files with data and a description as well as another person's solution. It got as far as measurements written down on an old scrap of aluminum, some numbers on a calculator, and some internet research. Some details to work out, but this is not a rocket science problem. It only requires a Junk Yard Wars solution. So you all read the attached and tell me if I am crazy. No welding, no complex machining. Most of it can be done with a drill press and a hole saw. I am…</p>
<p>Attached are a couple of files with data and a description as well as another person's solution. It got as far as measurements written down on an old scrap of aluminum, some numbers on a calculator, and some internet research. Some details to work out, but this is not a rocket science problem. It only requires a Junk Yard Wars solution. So you all read the attached and tell me if I am crazy. No welding, no complex machining. Most of it can be done with a drill press and a hole saw. I am focusing now on finding a new airframe. It would be great if one of you guys had it all worked out in detail by the time I get another.</p>
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<p>Bon Chance'</p> Glad to hear you made it out.…tag:zenith.aero,2016-07-20:2606393:Comment:5176082016-07-20T00:14:39.782ZEd G Novakhttps://zenith.aero/profile/EdGNovak
Glad to hear you made it out. I would like the info on the gear mod
Glad to hear you made it out. I would like the info on the gear mod It's striking and thought-pro…tag:zenith.aero,2016-07-18:2606393:Comment:5173592016-07-18T12:39:09.047ZPatrick Hoythttps://zenith.aero/profile/PatrickHoyt
<p>It's striking and thought-provoking to see how well the passenger compartment (and you!) fared.</p>
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<p>I never considered the 801 (or anything else non-LSA), but seeing how well the 801 handled this, plus the new medical rule that just got passed. It gets a guy thinking....</p>
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<p>Prediction: more guys are going to be impressed with, and take a second look at, the 801.</p>
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<p>Pat</p>
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<p>It's striking and thought-provoking to see how well the passenger compartment (and you!) fared.</p>
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<p>I never considered the 801 (or anything else non-LSA), but seeing how well the 801 handled this, plus the new medical rule that just got passed. It gets a guy thinking....</p>
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<p>Prediction: more guys are going to be impressed with, and take a second look at, the 801.</p>
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<p>Pat</p>
<p>N63PZ</p> Bad day Sam, glad nobody got…tag:zenith.aero,2016-07-18:2606393:Comment:5173462016-07-18T12:23:20.925ZTimothy D. McCallhttps://zenith.aero/profile/TimothyDMcCall
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<p>Bad day Sam, glad nobody got hurt. </p>
<p>Sometimes these things look better in a few days once the initial shock is over. Might not be as bad as it looks.</p>
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<p>Bad day Sam, glad nobody got hurt. </p>
<p>Sometimes these things look better in a few days once the initial shock is over. Might not be as bad as it looks.</p>
<p>Tim </p> Sam - Met you once at Sun n F…tag:zenith.aero,2016-07-18:2606393:Comment:5173432016-07-18T12:02:14.774ZJohn Austinhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnLAustin
<p>Sam - Met you once at Sun n Fun in Homebuilt Camping and looked at your plane. I'm so glad that no one was seriously injured - that seems to be typical in Zenith landing crashes, thank goodness! </p>
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<p>I know the prop strike is unavoidable if the nose gear collapses, but out of curiosity, does the 801 have a welded stop ring on the nose gear strut to prevent a prop strike if the bungee breaks? (On the 750, I've got about 9" of prop-ground clearance with a broken bungee and the…</p>
<p>Sam - Met you once at Sun n Fun in Homebuilt Camping and looked at your plane. I'm so glad that no one was seriously injured - that seems to be typical in Zenith landing crashes, thank goodness! </p>
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<p>I know the prop strike is unavoidable if the nose gear collapses, but out of curiosity, does the 801 have a welded stop ring on the nose gear strut to prevent a prop strike if the bungee breaks? (On the 750, I've got about 9" of prop-ground clearance with a broken bungee and the lower nose gear bearing resting on the welded stop ring.)</p>
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<blockquote><p><span>Check your bungees often or better yet do the steel bungee upgrade or equivalent. I have a design for a simple rugged, easy upgrade that should cost around $100 to do.</span></p>
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<p>You're killing me with that "teaser" about the $100 upgrade! Ha! I'd love to hear the details and leave it to you as to whether to start a new thread or keep it in this one!</p>
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<p>Again, glad you're OK!</p>
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<p>John</p>
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