Great inexpensive seats for 750, and likely 601 - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-28T10:04:32Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/great-inexpensive-seats-for-750-and-likely-601?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHas anybody used the Noral ai…tag:zenith.aero,2015-02-26:2606393:Comment:4166982015-02-26T01:10:08.662ZJoe Pringlehttps://zenith.aero/profile/JoePringle
<p>Has anybody used the Noral aircraft seats? Will they fit on the 750 seat back as supplied with the kit?</p>
<p>Has anybody used the Noral aircraft seats? Will they fit on the 750 seat back as supplied with the kit?</p> Very true Christopher, I had…tag:zenith.aero,2014-07-13:2606393:Comment:3672352014-07-13T00:37:53.283ZPeter Autenriedhttps://zenith.aero/profile/PeterAutenried
<p>Very true Christopher, I had to enforce the seat support (7511-2) with an aluminum L-angel which adds another few ounces to the total.</p>
<p>Very true Christopher, I had to enforce the seat support (7511-2) with an aluminum L-angel which adds another few ounces to the total.</p> Just FYI, I weighed my seats…tag:zenith.aero,2014-07-12:2606393:Comment:3672132014-07-12T16:28:31.218ZChristopher Braunhttps://zenith.aero/profile/ChristopherBraun
Just FYI, I weighed my seats this morning. Zenith frames alone are 5 without cover and padding. My boat seats are 10 with amazing padding. Could probably take off the base and replace it with wood with lightening holes if I wanted too to save 2-3 lbs a piece.
Just FYI, I weighed my seats this morning. Zenith frames alone are 5 without cover and padding. My boat seats are 10 with amazing padding. Could probably take off the base and replace it with wood with lightening holes if I wanted too to save 2-3 lbs a piece. Thanks Peter! Great idea. I t…tag:zenith.aero,2014-07-12:2606393:Comment:3672122014-07-12T16:26:58.096ZChristopher Braunhttps://zenith.aero/profile/ChristopherBraun
Thanks Peter! Great idea. I think the only problem with that sliding mount is that it is very narrow and doesn't cover the entire seat base. It might allow the seat to lean to either side or backwards and forwards.
Thanks Peter! Great idea. I think the only problem with that sliding mount is that it is very narrow and doesn't cover the entire seat base. It might allow the seat to lean to either side or backwards and forwards. Also look at this thread
http…tag:zenith.aero,2014-07-12:2606393:Comment:3671082014-07-12T02:48:00.659ZPeter Autenriedhttps://zenith.aero/profile/PeterAutenried
<p>Also look at this thread</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zenith.aero/group/stolch750/forum/topics/seat-rails" target="_blank">http://www.zenith.aero/group/stolch750/forum/topics/seat-rails</a></p>
<p>Peter</p>
<p>Also look at this thread</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zenith.aero/group/stolch750/forum/topics/seat-rails" target="_blank">http://www.zenith.aero/group/stolch750/forum/topics/seat-rails</a></p>
<p>Peter</p> The Zenith seats are fine for…tag:zenith.aero,2014-07-12:2606393:Comment:3672042014-07-12T01:57:46.966ZWayne Tyson Jrhttps://zenith.aero/profile/WayneTysonJr
<p>The Zenith seats are fine for short trips, but one needs a cushion or two for flights longer than a few minutes. They're not exactly bio-morphically designed. If I could get greater comfort and lighter weight, a few bucks extra would not deter me.</p>
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<p>I met the nice ladies in the Zenith office; they were helpful to the limits of their knowledge. We RON'd by their hangar, much as we did at yours. I will contact Caleb or Roger for the info, and contact RANS.</p>
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<p>Wayne</p>
<p>The Zenith seats are fine for short trips, but one needs a cushion or two for flights longer than a few minutes. They're not exactly bio-morphically designed. If I could get greater comfort and lighter weight, a few bucks extra would not deter me.</p>
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<p>I met the nice ladies in the Zenith office; they were helpful to the limits of their knowledge. We RON'd by their hangar, much as we did at yours. I will contact Caleb or Roger for the info, and contact RANS.</p>
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<p>Wayne</p> I don't know about the burn c…tag:zenith.aero,2014-07-12:2606393:Comment:3671032014-07-12T01:02:53.397ZJohn Austinhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnLAustin
<p>I don't know about the burn certification on the RANS Coyote seats, but RANS could probably tell you. Should you install them? I don't know, but they are very light and I "think" they would fit dimensionally, but it would require some sort of adapters to mount them. I don't think they're exactly cheap, either! If useful load was a real problem - they "might" be a good solution as I'm sure they're much lighter than almost anything else.</p>
<p>I don't know about the burn-cert on the Zenith…</p>
<p>I don't know about the burn certification on the RANS Coyote seats, but RANS could probably tell you. Should you install them? I don't know, but they are very light and I "think" they would fit dimensionally, but it would require some sort of adapters to mount them. I don't think they're exactly cheap, either! If useful load was a real problem - they "might" be a good solution as I'm sure they're much lighter than almost anything else.</p>
<p>I don't know about the burn-cert on the Zenith seats - I suppose/would hope that Caleb would know. As I understand it, Zenith farms the fabrication out to a local upholstery shop in Mexico, MO. The nice ladies at the Zenith office knew zero about the details of the seat and upholstery kit!</p>
<p>John</p> Should I sell my Zenith seats…tag:zenith.aero,2014-07-12:2606393:Comment:3672702014-07-12T00:29:18.070ZWayne Tyson Jrhttps://zenith.aero/profile/WayneTysonJr
<p>Should I sell my Zenith seats and install the Coyote ones?</p>
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<p>WT</p>
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<p>PS: Are both "fire rated?"</p>
<p>Should I sell my Zenith seats and install the Coyote ones?</p>
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<p>WT</p>
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<p>PS: Are both "fire rated?"</p> It's also a good argument for…tag:zenith.aero,2014-07-10:2606393:Comment:3668992014-07-10T20:11:59.546ZJohn Austinhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnLAustin
<p>It's also a good argument for <em>not</em> doing taxi tests! A very experienced test pilot gave one of the EAA webinars and he was against "high speed" taxi tests when testing an established kit/design. He argued instead to go ahead and take off if the plane is ready for flight. Taxi tests at speed can cause inadvertent flight when you're not really prepared or you can easily get in an environment of too fast for taxi and too slow for flight and have marginal control - anything else happens…</p>
<p>It's also a good argument for <em>not</em> doing taxi tests! A very experienced test pilot gave one of the EAA webinars and he was against "high speed" taxi tests when testing an established kit/design. He argued instead to go ahead and take off if the plane is ready for flight. Taxi tests at speed can cause inadvertent flight when you're not really prepared or you can easily get in an environment of too fast for taxi and too slow for flight and have marginal control - anything else happens (like a blown tire) and an accident can result. With conventional take offs and landing, you're only exposed to that "marginal area" for a few brief seconds at most. Some argue you need a fast taxi to test brakes, etc., but most find (especially with the 800 tires) that 701's and 750's don't require much from the brakes.</p>
<p>It also makes you wonder if the taxi tests were responsible for the blown tires? Normally, landing and take off speeds are so slow and the tires are spun-up so briefly that they don't even get warm. Perhaps prolonged or higher speed taxi is too much for these tires as Chris correctly points out that they're certainly <em>not</em> speed rated!</p>
<p>I'll now put on my Moderator hat and censure myself for creeping the thread further! :>)</p>
<p>John</p> Since this is off thread, may…tag:zenith.aero,2014-07-10:2606393:Comment:3670012014-07-10T19:15:39.164ZWalt Snyderhttps://zenith.aero/profile/WaltSnyder189
<p>Since this is off thread, maybe you could get the guys that blew tires at taxi to post on that thread. To be honest, that's a first to hear about a Carlisle tire blowing out down here, much less on a taxi test, and they are used quite a lot. It would be interesting and beneficial if the pilots shared what they found, as that's what the majority of us use. </p>
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<p>Walt Snyder</p>
<p>Since this is off thread, maybe you could get the guys that blew tires at taxi to post on that thread. To be honest, that's a first to hear about a Carlisle tire blowing out down here, much less on a taxi test, and they are used quite a lot. It would be interesting and beneficial if the pilots shared what they found, as that's what the majority of us use. </p>
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<p>Walt Snyder</p>