Private strips, Backcountry strips, Camp spots, Events, etc

It's becoming apparent as more complete their Zeniths that quite a few have private dirt or grass strips, favorite backcountry strips, or just plain old fun places to set down where there may not even be a "landing strip". I think most of us that fly the 701's, 750's, and 801's would rather stop in and say hi to a Zenith buddy, or fly to a place that a Zenith flyer has given us info on, then fly over to another airport that we have been to many times. (though that's still a kick for most of us) Also, as more start doing some serious cross countries, it sure would be nice if we knew of a few places to stop in and say hi to another Zenith builder or flyer, or just to get local info, or maybe just do a fly by and talk to someone we may know from the forum on a handheld.  

For those that are like minded and willing, it would be great if you could post replies under this discussion with your private strip, favorite backcountry strip, event, etc, along with any requirements you may have if one of us were to land there (contact prior, waivers, have to move cattle, mow hay, send wife away, etc). GPS coordinates, a picture showing it on a sectional, approach info, anything that you would like to know if you were landing at an unknown or unmarked grass or dirt strip. (I think it's best if we leave paved runways or favorite airports for another discussion) 

It's important that we realize this information is strictly for Zenith forum members, and not to be shared unless the owner gives approval. Also, if there are requirements prior to landing, such as prior contact, that is strictly adhered to, as we can't forget we are their guests, and that landing strip on private property is their "home". On the backcountry strips, it's up to the pilot to ascertain the legality of landing there, and those vary from state to state. (There are some states that have passed laws protecting private and public landowners from liability when aircraft are on their property. Check theraf.org if your state is included, and also to support them.) 

Any little cleared backcountry spot where one can safely set down one of our planes would also be of great interest to some of us, particularly if there are pictures, especially with a tent in the background  and pilots enjoying their choice of backcountry flying. If it says FUN on it, we're all over it, that's why we invested the time and money into our Zeniths. 

Walt Snyder

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Permalink Reply by Mack P. Kreizenbeck on July 8, 2014 at 10:22pm

Wayne,

Those Champs are fun to fly - almost purchased one, with my hangar buddy, that had been modified somewhat, but found out it was over gross with me and full tanks. I still need a training wheel.

You present good questions that I can't answer and I know of no one that can. As I mentioned before, the BLM has no guidance, but it is evident they trying to grease the squeaky wheel.

Another instance dealt with the Forest Service. They disallowed PBS the use of a TV camera to record a documentary in an area that is locked up to motorized vehicles.

It took an act of congress to allow this camera to be used - one year later!

I'm laying it out, the majority of our populous is frustrated. We have had a lot of stuff and I mean "stuff" shoved down our throats and we can't do anything about it!  As, as you pointed out in your earlier thread, we are outnumbered. The population of Idaho is +/- 1.7 million, whereas most Eastern cities are that size and larger.

Yes, your questions are reasonable, but are unanswerable at this time! 

Mack

Permalink Reply by Walt Snyder on July 8, 2014 at 11:24pm
Wayne, I really recommend going to the theraf.org website and joining their organization if you're interested in keeping these areas open. Because of them, California just became the 26th state to pass a bill which protects private and public land owners from liability in aviation related matters and also includes aircraft in the definition of recreational vehicle use on these public lands.

If it can happen in California, it can happen anywhere.

Walt Snyder
Permalink Reply by Wayne Tyson Jr on July 9, 2014 at 11:37am

Walt, in one of my past lives, I was a bit of a public policy wonk, so I'm interested in effectiveness in the realm of politics (ugh!), which means human "nature." I will look into the organization, but I've never been very good with organizations--I tend to be too active. Ironically, I have my hands full and overflowing right now, having gone dark on everything else to concentrate on aviation for over a year now, and will likely continue to do so for the forseeable future.

How many Zenith people belong to this organization?

Wayne Tyson

Permalink Reply by Walt Snyder on July 9, 2014 at 12:54pm
There can't be a more stringent test for an organization then to get a bill passed in California that greatly diminishes lawsuits and provides pilots access to public lands.

My vote is for you to start a separate discussion on these types of organizations and how we can help them help us.

Walt Snyder
Permalink Reply by Ben Haas on July 8, 2014 at 6:40pm

801 Driver here....

 

I have a 3000" private airport on my ranch in western Wyoming... Perfect for bush planes Usually it is only me using it, altho Harrison Ford lands there alot in his Husky....

 

2WY3.....

Permalink Reply by Walt Snyder on July 8, 2014 at 11:01pm
Wow, that's a great one to add to the pot, Ben, a lot of us really appreciate this! Can you add GPS coordinates, elevation, etc or do you want us to contact you for further?

Thanks again for the info
Walt Snyder
Permalink Reply by Wayne Tyson Jr on July 9, 2014 at 3:45pm

I already looked them up:

Aircraft Operations  Landing sites

 

43.0072222, -110.3172222

 

BEN HAAS
700 PONDEROSA DR
JACKSON, WY 83001
Phone 307-733-9554

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Reply by Ben Haas 30 minutes ago

http://www.zenith.aero/forum/topics/private-strips-backcountry-stri...

801 Driver here....

 

I have a 3000" private airport on my ranch in western Wyoming... Perfect for bush planes Usually it is only me using it, altho Harrison Ford lands there alot in his Husky....

 

2WY3.....

 

 

2WY3

Haas Airport
Merna, Wyoming, USA

 

FAA INFORMATION EFFECTIVE 29 MAY 2014

Location

FAA Identifier: 

2WY3

Lat/Long: 

43-00-26.0000N / 110-19-02.0000W
43-00.433333N / 110-19.033333W
43.0072222 / -110.3172222
(estimated)

Elevation: 

7980 ft. / 2432 m

Variation: 

14E (2000)

From city: 

4 miles N of MERNA, WY

Time zone: 

UTC -6 (UTC -7 during Standard Time)

Zip code: 

83115

Airport Operations

Airport use: 

Private use. Permission required prior to landing

Activation date: 

02/2002

Sectional chart: 

SALT LAKE CITY

Control tower: 

no

ARTCC: 

SALT LAKE CITY CENTER

FSS: 

CASPER FLIGHT SERVICE STATION

Attendance: 

UNATNDD

Wind indicator: 

yes

Segmented circle: 

no

Nearby radio navigation aids

VOR radial/distance

  

VOR name

  

Freq

  

Var

BPIr324/27.3

 

BIG PINEY VOR/DME

 

116.50

 

16E


 

NDB name

  

Hdg/Dist

  

Freq

  

Var

  

ID

WENZ

 

287/25.9

 

392

 

13E

 

PNA

 .--. -. .-

Airport Services

 

Runway Information

Runway 7/25

Dimensions: 

2960 x 100 ft. / 902 x 30 m

Surface: 

turf

 

RUNWAY 7

  

RUNWAY 25

Traffic pattern: 

left

 

right

Airport Ownership and Management from official FAA records

Ownership: 

Privately-owned

Owner: 

HAAS GENERAL SERVICE INC
700 PONDEROSA DR
JACKSON, WY 83001
Phone 307-733-9554

Manager: 

BEN HAAS
700 PONDEROSA DR
JACKSON, WY 83001
Phone 307-733-9554
CALL OWNER BEFORE USE.

Airport Operational Statistics

Aircraft based on the field:

 

1

Single engine airplanes:

 

1

  

  

Instrument Procedures

There are no published instrument procedures at 2WY3.

Some nearby airports with instrument procedures:

KPNA - Ralph Wenz Field Airport (26 nm SE)
KBPI - Miley Memorial Field Airport (27 nm S)
KAFO - Afton Municipal Airport (33 nm SW)
KJAC - Jackson Hole Airport (40 nm NW)
KDIJ - Driggs-Reed Memorial Airport (56 nm NW)

 

I suggest that someone with more computer savvy than I create a single repository for such information, such that it can be entered, en masse, to our tablets, compatible with as many of the navigation apps as possible. I have been entering local strips into a Word file, a most unsatisfactory format for this application. But then, I'm computer-averse. I'm teachable, just not competent.

WT

Permalink Reply by Walt Snyder on August 9, 2014 at 1:46pm

For those interested, below is the information for the Backcountry High Sierras 5th Annual fly In.

BACKCOUNTRY PILOTS HIGH SIERRA FLY IN OCT 10,11,12

https://www.backcountrypilot.org/community/forum/latest/5th-annual-...

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