Comments - Stuck, stuck, stuck and frustrated - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-28T10:34:18Zhttps://zenith.aero/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=2606393%3ABlogPost%3A266835&xn_auth=noPaul, I put my comm ant just…tag:zenith.aero,2013-03-04:2606393:Comment:2696452013-03-04T06:36:56.700ZRANDY L HALLOCKhttps://zenith.aero/profile/RandyLHallock
<p>Paul, I put my comm ant just aft of the top skylight centered on fuselage. I placed my ELT ant 2 feet aft of comm ant per instructions for ants, no closer than 2 feet apart. I put my GPS ant 2 feet aft of ELT ant. My transponder ant is on the belly just aft of the main gear, all ant centered on fuselage. I have a 40-42 waste and can barely get in the belly access panel. My only gripe about this build is the belly access panel should have been about 8" aft so anyone larger than Roger at the…</p>
<p>Paul, I put my comm ant just aft of the top skylight centered on fuselage. I placed my ELT ant 2 feet aft of comm ant per instructions for ants, no closer than 2 feet apart. I put my GPS ant 2 feet aft of ELT ant. My transponder ant is on the belly just aft of the main gear, all ant centered on fuselage. I have a 40-42 waste and can barely get in the belly access panel. My only gripe about this build is the belly access panel should have been about 8" aft so anyone larger than Roger at the factory can stand up and work inside the fuselage.</p> Thanks all for your replies a…tag:zenith.aero,2013-02-24:2606393:Comment:2683782013-02-24T19:51:58.942ZPaul Sandershttps://zenith.aero/profile/ukpylot
<p>Thanks all for your replies and support. I've done a lot more browsing on here of people's builds to get ideas and I'm feeling much better, or at least I can see that I keep going for quite some time before I really need to know what I am going to do.</p>
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<p>I have ordered the Nuckolls book, too. Btw it is cheaper to buy from his website than Amazon (and he offers a PDF only version which is cheaper still).</p>
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<p>Thanks again to everyone.</p>
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<p>Thanks all for your replies and support. I've done a lot more browsing on here of people's builds to get ideas and I'm feeling much better, or at least I can see that I keep going for quite some time before I really need to know what I am going to do.</p>
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<p>I have ordered the Nuckolls book, too. Btw it is cheaper to buy from his website than Amazon (and he offers a PDF only version which is cheaper still).</p>
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<p>Thanks again to everyone.</p>
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<p>Paul</p> I put all my antennas in afte…tag:zenith.aero,2013-02-24:2606393:Comment:2684532013-02-24T05:20:24.433ZDavid Fitzgeraldhttps://zenith.aero/profile/DavidFitzgerald
<p>I put all my antennas in after my plane was all together. I mounted my comm antenna on the top rear fuse as far back as I could reach while standing up thru the access opening in the bottom. I used the antenna mounted to my ELT and mounted it under the pass. seat. The transponder antenna below the center consol. The most difficult was the GPS antenna which I mounted forward baggage roof and routing the wires was a pain.</p>
<p>I put all my antennas in after my plane was all together. I mounted my comm antenna on the top rear fuse as far back as I could reach while standing up thru the access opening in the bottom. I used the antenna mounted to my ELT and mounted it under the pass. seat. The transponder antenna below the center consol. The most difficult was the GPS antenna which I mounted forward baggage roof and routing the wires was a pain.</p> I'd suggest getting the book…tag:zenith.aero,2013-02-22:2606393:Comment:2677372013-02-22T17:38:27.231ZLouis W. Otthttps://zenith.aero/profile/LouisWOtt
<p>I'd suggest getting the book "AeroElectric Connection" by Bob Nuckolls. It has a lot of detailed information on all the electrical, instrumentation, and radio/antenna installation you'll eventually need. His web site is here. <a href="http://www.aeroelectric.com/" target="_blank">http://www.aeroelectric.com/</a></p>
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<p>Get the book.…</p>
<p>I'd suggest getting the book "AeroElectric Connection" by Bob Nuckolls. It has a lot of detailed information on all the electrical, instrumentation, and radio/antenna installation you'll eventually need. His web site is here. <a href="http://www.aeroelectric.com/" target="_blank">http://www.aeroelectric.com/</a></p>
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<p>Get the book. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/AeroElectric-Connection-Bob-Nuckolls/dp/B0013Q0SNE" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/AeroElectric-Connection-Bob-Nuckolls/dp/B0013Q0SNE</a></p>
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<p>Also, answers to others questions on this forum.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=3" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=3</a></p> contact a local radio shop an…tag:zenith.aero,2013-02-21:2606393:Comment:2674932013-02-21T02:21:34.984ZD Dixonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/DDixon
contact a local radio shop and ask advice. they are usually happy to advise. you will need them sooner or later and they will welcome the business...<br />
you,ll meet new plane folks!
contact a local radio shop and ask advice. they are usually happy to advise. you will need them sooner or later and they will welcome the business...<br />
you,ll meet new plane folks! If you have two comm radios (…tag:zenith.aero,2013-02-20:2606393:Comment:2669262013-02-20T04:30:20.006ZBob Pustellhttps://zenith.aero/profile/BobPustell
<p>If you have two comm radios (a very nice luxury) put one antenna on the top. As pointed out already, it will survive crash situations better and maybe leave you with a functioning radio to talk to rescue folks. Put the other comm antenna on the bottom because when airborne, the bottom is where the ground radio stations you are talking to are located. When I flew big jets for a living, we used the radio with the comm antenna on the top for ground ops (talking to ramp control, getting…</p>
<p>If you have two comm radios (a very nice luxury) put one antenna on the top. As pointed out already, it will survive crash situations better and maybe leave you with a functioning radio to talk to rescue folks. Put the other comm antenna on the bottom because when airborne, the bottom is where the ground radio stations you are talking to are located. When I flew big jets for a living, we used the radio with the comm antenna on the top for ground ops (talking to ramp control, getting clearances at the gate, etc) and the radio with the comm antenna on the bottom for talking with ATC enroute.</p>
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<p>ELT antennas should be on the top so they will still (hopefully) send a signal after a crash. Transponder should be on the bottom -- you use it when you are airborne.</p>
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<p>Any antenna needs a ground plane - a grounded metal surface to mount the antenna on. There are rules about how big it needs to be, depending on the freq range of the antenna. Basically, the bigger, the better. Also, antenna should not be mounted close to each other or they will interfere with each other, induce strange false signals, etc. Also, try not to block the antenna with metal structure (for instance, if you put a comm antenna right next to a gear leg on the bottom of the plane, there will be a blank area of reception and transmission in the area behind the gear leg from the antenna).</p>
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<p>Finally, be sure the mounting area is physically strong enough. If the skin is thin there, rivet on a doubler to make the area strong enough to support the antenna. The force of wind at cruise power is strong, plus things vibrate a lot.</p>
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<p>You can find rules for all these things, but common sense applies also. As pointed out already, look at a lot of other installations. Especially, look at certified aircraft installations - they need to honor all those rules about spaceing and doublers and stuff or they could not get certified. Have fun. Chill out. Learn stuff and build. Enjoy.</p>
<p></p> Look in my Can-Zac Spycam pho…tag:zenith.aero,2013-02-20:2606393:Comment:2669812013-02-20T02:37:39.997ZBob McDonaldhttps://zenith.aero/profile/BobMcDonald
Look in my Can-Zac Spycam photo album on this site. I posted antenna mounting pictures and tips.
Look in my Can-Zac Spycam photo album on this site. I posted antenna mounting pictures and tips. Transponder antenna should be…tag:zenith.aero,2013-02-19:2606393:Comment:2669112013-02-19T23:20:25.886ZNormand Lamberthttps://zenith.aero/profile/NormandLambert
Transponder antenna should be under belly because radars look up for you plane .. Mine is under passenger seat easy access and close to xponder...<br />
Radio antenna and ELT are on top of fuse ...in case of crash they wont be damaged and will continue xmitting. They are both centerlined over the bagage area for ease of access...<br />
Easy ...KISS principle.<br />
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Transponder antenna should be under belly because radars look up for you plane .. Mine is under passenger seat easy access and close to xponder...<br />
Radio antenna and ELT are on top of fuse ...in case of crash they wont be damaged and will continue xmitting. They are both centerlined over the bagage area for ease of access...<br />
Easy ...KISS principle.<br />
Norm The inspection cover won't gi…tag:zenith.aero,2013-02-19:2606393:Comment:2670852013-02-19T22:59:08.012ZMark Napierhttps://zenith.aero/profile/MarkNapier
The inspection cover won't give a good ground plane for the antenna.
The inspection cover won't give a good ground plane for the antenna. Why not mount the antenna in…tag:zenith.aero,2013-02-19:2606393:Comment:2668432013-02-19T21:29:33.446ZJesse Hartmanhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JesseHartman
<p>Why not mount the antenna in the center of an inspection cover. That way you can always get to the back of it when needed. Also when I build or set up police cars and I need to pull wire I lay in some string or rope so after I install the cage or back seat I can tape the wires to the rope and pull them through. I dont know........</p>
<p>Why not mount the antenna in the center of an inspection cover. That way you can always get to the back of it when needed. Also when I build or set up police cars and I need to pull wire I lay in some string or rope so after I install the cage or back seat I can tape the wires to the rope and pull them through. I dont know........</p>