Comments - Leaking CH701 / CH750 / CH801 tires - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-29T05:36:51Zhttps://zenith.aero/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=2606393%3ABlogPost%3A119680&xn_auth=noMy 2c worth.... regular soap…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-09:2606393:Comment:1211642011-05-09T23:24:35.705ZJonathan Porterhttps://zenith.aero/profile/ElizabethPorter
My 2c worth.... regular soap (sunlight and green slime) is full of salt - that can cause corrosion. Oil (and probably anit-freeze) thin and seep over time. IF you go to the tyre shop they use a 'tyre solution' it is white and slimy. Even here in Africa, when we asked they filled a small water bottle with the stuff for free. We mounted the tyres and had one problem in 6 tyres. Took it apart and refitted it up with the O ring and it was fine... probably a pinched O ring... The issue with…
My 2c worth.... regular soap (sunlight and green slime) is full of salt - that can cause corrosion. Oil (and probably anit-freeze) thin and seep over time. IF you go to the tyre shop they use a 'tyre solution' it is white and slimy. Even here in Africa, when we asked they filled a small water bottle with the stuff for free. We mounted the tyres and had one problem in 6 tyres. Took it apart and refitted it up with the O ring and it was fine... probably a pinched O ring... The issue with run flat products is that they need to be run at at least 20mph for several minutes to spread around - they need centrifugal force - and they coat the tyre not the rims and centre - if it sits in a spot it can cause unbalancing of the wheel. BUT whatever works for you! It may not be the right thing…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-08:2606393:Comment:1207512011-05-08T10:46:15.551ZHarmen van der Veldenhttps://zenith.aero/profile/HarmenvanderVelden
<p>It may not be the right thing to do , but I used one can of "fix a flat" shared between the 3 tires. now have to bring tires up to pressure (12psi) about twice a year. so far 130 hrs in 2 years and all is fine.</p>
<p>Harmen</p>
<p>It may not be the right thing to do , but I used one can of "fix a flat" shared between the 3 tires. now have to bring tires up to pressure (12psi) about twice a year. so far 130 hrs in 2 years and all is fine.</p>
<p>Harmen</p> Hey Bob,
I have used Green Sl…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-06:2606393:Comment:1202482011-05-06T18:56:17.469ZThomas Jacksonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/THOMASJACKSON
<p>Hey Bob,</p>
<p>I have used Green Slime for years on many different small tubeless tires and it works well. I have not had that problem with my 701, since it is still land locked. With the Green Slime (available at most auto stores) it works best when you rotate the tire and rim in all direction to spread the GS especially around the rim area.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
<p>Hey Bob,</p>
<p>I have used Green Slime for years on many different small tubeless tires and it works well. I have not had that problem with my 701, since it is still land locked. With the Green Slime (available at most auto stores) it works best when you rotate the tire and rim in all direction to spread the GS especially around the rim area.</p>
<p>Tom</p> I have seen an ATV spin the r…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-06:2606393:Comment:1202472011-05-06T18:24:42.078ZBob McDonaldhttps://zenith.aero/profile/BobMcDonald
I have seen an ATV spin the rim inside the tire...and that tears out the tubes valve stem ! But I don't think that is possible with aircraft tires in the LSA category? Its simply a added weight & $ dollar cost for tire tubes.
I have seen an ATV spin the rim inside the tire...and that tears out the tubes valve stem ! But I don't think that is possible with aircraft tires in the LSA category? Its simply a added weight & $ dollar cost for tire tubes. Bob,
What's the issue with us…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-06:2606393:Comment:1199052011-05-06T13:36:01.436ZAndre Levesquehttps://zenith.aero/profile/AndreLevesque
<p>Bob,</p>
<p>What's the issue with using tubes? Other than weight. I researched the differences in using Tubeless vs Tube aircraft tires and there are many opinions. But it seems like they see tubes as OLD technology.</p>
<p>Maybe with many landings the tubes one would put stress on the valve and eventually puncture?</p>
<p>But yes, a flat in the woods...you are right is not that good. -:_) </p>
<p>On my ATV's they are tubeless with 4 lbs of air and let me tell ya...they take a beating and…</p>
<p>Bob,</p>
<p>What's the issue with using tubes? Other than weight. I researched the differences in using Tubeless vs Tube aircraft tires and there are many opinions. But it seems like they see tubes as OLD technology.</p>
<p>Maybe with many landings the tubes one would put stress on the valve and eventually puncture?</p>
<p>But yes, a flat in the woods...you are right is not that good. -:_) </p>
<p>On my ATV's they are tubeless with 4 lbs of air and let me tell ya...they take a beating and they don't lose air.</p>
<p>The 2 halves hub seems to be the issue with that O-ring. Can't we get ONE piece wheel hubs?? That would solve the issue.harder to put the tire on maybe..but worth it I guess. Do they exist?</p>
<p> </p> I "lubed" the "O" ring with S…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-06:2606393:Comment:1199702011-05-06T08:02:29.172ZBob McDonaldhttps://zenith.aero/profile/BobMcDonald
I "lubed" the "O" ring with Sunlight soap on assembly. Like said two of my tires & rims are perfect, the nose only a minor leak but it is a pain-in-the-ass type of issue. I think Ralph might be onto some thing... these are cheap quality tires. Bob Stuarts tire developed a crack along the tread, in the middle of the tire just sitting in the hangar. A flat in the back country can strand you far from your nice warm bed !
I "lubed" the "O" ring with Sunlight soap on assembly. Like said two of my tires & rims are perfect, the nose only a minor leak but it is a pain-in-the-ass type of issue. I think Ralph might be onto some thing... these are cheap quality tires. Bob Stuarts tire developed a crack along the tread, in the middle of the tire just sitting in the hangar. A flat in the back country can strand you far from your nice warm bed ! I had a leak in left main for…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-06:2606393:Comment:1199672011-05-06T07:24:36.747ZRalph Sansonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/RalphSanson
<p>I had a leak in left main for a few months, tried using the can of tyre goo (sparingly, as I thought it was around the tubeless valvestem) took about 6 weeks to go soft. Removed the tyre and fitted a tube.</p>
<p>Leak was identified as thin spot in the middle of the tread.</p>
<p>Eventually I expect to fit tubes to all of them. Now carry a spare tube. The writing on the tyre sidewall says "tube type"</p>
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<p>Ralph</p>
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<p>I had a leak in left main for a few months, tried using the can of tyre goo (sparingly, as I thought it was around the tubeless valvestem) took about 6 weeks to go soft. Removed the tyre and fitted a tube.</p>
<p>Leak was identified as thin spot in the middle of the tread.</p>
<p>Eventually I expect to fit tubes to all of them. Now carry a spare tube. The writing on the tyre sidewall says "tube type"</p>
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<p>Ralph</p>
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<p> </p> To use a tubeless tire the…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-06:2606393:Comment:1197332011-05-06T03:30:18.287ZAndre Levesquehttps://zenith.aero/profile/AndreLevesque
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<p><br/>Small wheel rims are also made the same way as larger tubeless rims are, they split in half, but they are not sealed with a rubber <a href="http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/252812/#" class="kLink" id="KonaLink5"><font color="red"><span class="kLink">O </span><span class="kLink">ring</span></font></a> and have a hole in the outer rim to allow the tube inflation stem to stick through.</p>
<p>That's what the antifreeze does. But I've seen a spray can at Canadian tire for that purpose. made for wheels made of two halves. If I find the product I'll post it here.</p>
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You are not alone, it's…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-06:2606393:Comment:1199552011-05-06T02:08:16.418ZBill Alexanderhttps://zenith.aero/profile/BillAlexander
Bob,<br />
You are not alone, it's the left main for me. I even took back apart and added RTV all around the O ring. It seemed to help, but stll need to add air about every 10 days or so. The anti freeze sounds like a worth while try.<br />
Bill
Bob,<br />
You are not alone, it's the left main for me. I even took back apart and added RTV all around the O ring. It seemed to help, but stll need to add air about every 10 days or so. The anti freeze sounds like a worth while try.<br />
Bill Hi Bob,
Did you tire lube the…tag:zenith.aero,2011-05-05:2606393:Comment:1196852011-05-05T22:51:21.351ZJoe Harringtonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JoeHarrington
<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>Did you tire lube the o-ring when you installed it? I have also heard that you can try deflating the tire, then loosen off the wheel-half bolts evenly a little bit (a turn or two) then inflate to a low pressure (a pound or two) and then tighten up the wheel bolts evenly. This idea is to "set" the o-ring in a little and squish it between the wheel halves. No experience with this myself but made sense to me.</p>
<p>Good Luck,</p>
<p>Joe</p>
<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>Did you tire lube the o-ring when you installed it? I have also heard that you can try deflating the tire, then loosen off the wheel-half bolts evenly a little bit (a turn or two) then inflate to a low pressure (a pound or two) and then tighten up the wheel bolts evenly. This idea is to "set" the o-ring in a little and squish it between the wheel halves. No experience with this myself but made sense to me.</p>
<p>Good Luck,</p>
<p>Joe</p>