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Q&A - Zodiac 601XL -650 for the latest upgrade drawings of November 24 2009

Replied Jan 1

Q&A - Safety Alert and SAIB - Zodiac XL / CH 650

Replied Nov. 12, 2009

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Note to self: Cut other side of line. Order replacement part. Dec. 28, 2009

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Note to self: Cut other side of line. Order replacement part.

December 27, 2009

Finished drilling Elevator skin. After replacing left door on my pick-up thanks to a Deer.

November 29, 2009

Drilled and clecoed the bottom of the Elevator

November 22, 2009

Finished Stab tips and started on Elevaror ribs.

October 17, 2009

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Rivit Spacing

August 2, 2009

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ZODIAC CH 650

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I'm up to lay out for the rivit line for the elevator hinge. The 40 pitch works out between the ribs. But outside the last rib to the end rib I ended up with 34 pitch to evenly space the last two rivits to the end of the hinge. Then 37 to get even spacing for the 5 from the end of the hinge to end rib. If anyone knows if this is something that will come back to bite me please speak up. I know the 37 is with tolerance set in the construction guide. I'm wondering about the 34. Stopped there for th… Continue

Posted on August 2, 2009 at 9:40pm — 1 Comment

Stab Skeleton Rivited

Boy did it feel good to start pulling some rivits. It made me feel like I'm getting somewhere. Now turn the page in the assembly guide and keep going. Yes I print them out. The computer has all the research for my wife's EED dissertation on here, I don't think I can take it to the hanger and live to tell about it.

Posted on March 15, 2009 at 11:30am —

priming mobil

No paint booth so I got inventive with a spool of bailing wire and some pastic drop clothes.

Posted on March 7, 2009 at 9:52pm —

sorry pics fussy

Alot of our workshop photos are pretty bad. We had just picked up the new camera. As you can see we didn't have the hang of it yet. The lady in the "Rosie the Riviter" pose is the CFO around here, and main support for crazy guy building his own plane. My better half Dee.
I'm done cutting wood. Plan to get back to the hanger to drill and cleco up stab ribs this weekend. Clecoes, yah ordered the recomended number the the tail kit. Started working and ordered 100 more 1/8" and 100 more 5/32". Other… Continue

Posted on February 6, 2009 at 7:14pm —

Not building this weekend

As you can see I traded plane building for tree cutting like alot of folks in the Ice Storm area.

Posted on January 31, 2009 at 5:39pm —

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At 2:31pm on March 1, 2010, Chuck Deiterich said…: Hi Richard,
You are welcome. I really enjoy writing articles about some of my do it yourself projects, like my step stool and nose wheeel steering rod boots, etc.
Chuck D.
N701TX

At 10:05am on January 17, 2010, Steve Weston said…: Hi Richard

The aileron bearing that I used is from Aircraft Spruce.
BC4W-10 and was a little costly at $19.95 each. It is however, a much better item to use over the bolt and sleeve that comes with the kit.
To use the bearing you might want to make a new bellcrank. The stock Zenith crank has a hole in it, which wouldnt allow full riveting the bearing to bellcrank.

At 5:20am on January 13, 2010, Brady McCormick said…: Richard,
I noticed your question to Dwight about where to find full sheets of veneer for your panel.
you might look into a plastic laminate like Formica, it's little easier to work with and it is much cheaper and it's much more durable.
But if you must have a wood veneer then try an outfit here in WA called EDEN SAW.
They are on of the premier wood suppliers to the yachting industry here and they have all sorts of exotics.
Oh, and by the way... Nice work! Keep it up:)
Brady

At 6:31am on December 15, 2009, Jake Reyna said…: Scratch build! You're a better man than me Charlie Brown ;-)

Have you considered getting the metal from ZAC? It might be cheaper even with shipping costs. I spoke with Joyce or Shirley about this a few months ago. They will sell full sheets to builders.

At 6:32pm on December 12, 2009, Jake Reyna said…: Thanks Richard! Just to clarify, I was Light Sport legal about a year ago after being cleared by my Cardiologist. As I mentioned, everyone told me not to go down the Special Issuance path, including the AME. It was a journey I had to take, I was willing to risk being denied, but I felt that once I presented all the data I would regain my Third Class Medical. I'm 52, seems a bit young to accept the limitations of Sport Pilot.

How's your project moving along? I was finished with mine and was about to hang the wings, then this little Upgrade came along. I have overcome other obstacles, it doesn't seem that significant.

At 11:15pm on September 1, 2009, Jacob said…: Yeah mine were pre-punched to. Did enlarge a little, hard to remember which direction they restricted me though. Thinking about it i'd say that it may be part of the reason as to why the fold is a tiny bit low. I'd say it probably happens to alot of people then. Did ask zenith about it and they weren't to worried about it.

At 11:32am on August 30, 2009, Mike Sigman said…: I did a LOT of research building the 601XL.......

At 1:40pm on August 4, 2009, Jake Reyna said…: We haven't quite made it through Pasco, although we did venture through Walla Walla.

Back to rivets. You're going to end up with dimples, that's just the way it is, especially when riveting thin material. You will learn how to drill out rivets.

If I was going to build another XL/650, I would build the tail feathers, flaps, ailerons and then I would do the fuselage, instrument panel and FWF. Once you've completed all of this you should be able to build the wings in about a month and then you're done.

Slow and steady is the best course.

Jake

At 2:11pm on April 11, 2009, Stephen R. Smith said…: Hello Richard,

I sent you an email but in case you don't get it here is the paint information.

My brother Alan's wife Nathalie was our record keeper and had the nickname "inventory control". She found the note below in her file.

Steve
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White: N0007EA & L0007EB (not sure why I have 2 numbers, maybe it is the same white but for different line of paint Imron 5000 vs. Imron 6000) – I show it at $170/gal

Red: Radiant Fire Effect L3262EB @ $448/gal

Black: Black Effect L2130EB @ ~ $170/gal

PS: I am not sure whether we used Imron 5000 (single stage) or Imron 6000 (2 stage) but I assume the numbers above will be the clue.

At 10:27am on March 4, 2009, David W. Brown said…: Richard, I hope to fly to Weddington Woods this Saturday the 7th to visit with Jim Wimberly, Just wondering if you will be there and maybe meet.
David

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