Use of AS5 Rivets - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-28T10:06:15Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/use-of-as5-rivets?commentId=2606393%3AComment%3A685387&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Darren
I think I can safel…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-31:2606393:Comment:6862162019-07-31T22:14:51.115ZKenneth Stapletonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/KennethStapleton
<p>Hi Darren</p>
<p>I think I can safely speak for the Zenith family and say...Glad we all can help! I view the folks on this forum as the worlds largest EAA chapter!</p>
<p>Hi Darren</p>
<p>I think I can safely speak for the Zenith family and say...Glad we all can help! I view the folks on this forum as the worlds largest EAA chapter!</p> Thanks Guys from the UK, can…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-31:2606393:Comment:6862092019-07-31T21:24:56.660ZDarren Westonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/DarrenWeston
<p>Thanks Guys from the UK, can you guess what I have been doing all night I hadn’t noticed that some were AS5, I should have the rest swapped over tomorrow this was posted just in time I got away with it by the skin of my teeth so close to it being a massive problem.</p>
<p>Thanks Guys from the UK, can you guess what I have been doing all night I hadn’t noticed that some were AS5, I should have the rest swapped over tomorrow this was posted just in time I got away with it by the skin of my teeth so close to it being a massive problem.</p> Hi James
Yes, I could not fin…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-25:2606393:Comment:6853892019-07-25T20:53:08.489ZKenneth Stapletonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/KennethStapleton
<p>Hi James</p>
<p>Yes, I could not find a callout for an AS5 in that area, but Jonathan Fay submitted to use AS5 there which makes sense to me. Thank you for this communication...it's what makes this group so fantastic!</p>
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<p>Ken</p>
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<p>Hi James</p>
<p>Yes, I could not find a callout for an AS5 in that area, but Jonathan Fay submitted to use AS5 there which makes sense to me. Thank you for this communication...it's what makes this group so fantastic!</p>
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<p>Ken</p>
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<p></p> In addition to the cylinder d…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-25:2606393:Comment:6856502019-07-25T20:05:23.784ZJames Clapper Jr.https://zenith.aero/profile/JAMESCCLAPPERJR
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3384699258?profile=original" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img class="align-full" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3384699258?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="400"></img></a> In addition to the cylinder door mount, I used AS5 on the cylinder fuselage mount, although I could not find a rivet call out in the plans. The pictures are from drawing NA-2 and N-2.…</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3384695941?profile=original" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img class="align-full" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3384695941?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="400"></img></a></p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3384699258?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3384699258?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="400" class="align-full"/></a>In addition to the cylinder door mount, I used AS5 on the cylinder fuselage mount, although I could not find a rivet call out in the plans. The pictures are from drawing NA-2 and N-2.</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3384695941?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3384695941?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="400" class="align-full"/></a></p> I hated getting too much prac…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-25:2606393:Comment:6854692019-07-25T18:55:34.998ZJonathan Fayhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JonathanFay
<p>I hated getting too much practice at that!</p>
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<p>I had to rivet the main cabin frame supports 4 times. I followed the guide for the old style doors, and put them on the back of the tubes, then had to move to steel, then had to move them to the front, then remove them again to deal with another issue. AS5 had *HARD* to drill out! </p>
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<p>The biggest deals have been the stuff that is really hard to get wired to once you have closed the baggage compartment and…</p>
<p>I hated getting too much practice at that!</p>
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<p>I had to rivet the main cabin frame supports 4 times. I followed the guide for the old style doors, and put them on the back of the tubes, then had to move to steel, then had to move them to the front, then remove them again to deal with another issue. AS5 had *HARD* to drill out! </p>
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<p>The biggest deals have been the stuff that is really hard to get wired to once you have closed the baggage compartment and such. </p>
<p>Psychologically I like finishing things, but unless you have wires, tubes and such run and protected, you are really are not ready. </p>
<p></p> The Newest List
Cabin Frame…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-25:2606393:Comment:6854672019-07-25T18:03:21.200ZKenneth Stapletonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/KennethStapleton
<p>The Newest List</p>
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<p>Cabin Frame Angles (C75-NA-1 and C75-N-1)</p>
<p>Rudder Pedals (C75-CA-3)</p>
<p>Seat Backs (C75-FA-8)</p>
<p>Elevator Assembly (C75-7A-2)</p>
<p>Upper Elevator Stop C75-2A-6)</p>
<p>Frame/Latch on Cabin Door C75-NA-2)</p>
<p>Rudder Stops (C75-2A-6) (Thanks to James Clapper)</p>
<p>Cylinder Fuselage Mount (C75-NA-2) (Thanks to Jonathan Fay)</p>
<p>The Newest List</p>
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<p>Cabin Frame Angles (C75-NA-1 and C75-N-1)</p>
<p>Rudder Pedals (C75-CA-3)</p>
<p>Seat Backs (C75-FA-8)</p>
<p>Elevator Assembly (C75-7A-2)</p>
<p>Upper Elevator Stop C75-2A-6)</p>
<p>Frame/Latch on Cabin Door C75-NA-2)</p>
<p>Rudder Stops (C75-2A-6) (Thanks to James Clapper)</p>
<p>Cylinder Fuselage Mount (C75-NA-2) (Thanks to Jonathan Fay)</p> Hi Jonathan
Thank you for the…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-25:2606393:Comment:6853872019-07-25T17:47:02.698ZKenneth Stapletonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/KennethStapleton
<p>Hi Jonathan</p>
<p>Thank you for the great advice! I have pretty much put the assembly guide in the back seat. Last night, I was drilling out a few rivets and my wife complimented (insulted?) me by commenting how quickly I could get a rivet out...wonder where I learned that?!?!?!?</p>
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<p>Ken</p>
<p>Hi Jonathan</p>
<p>Thank you for the great advice! I have pretty much put the assembly guide in the back seat. Last night, I was drilling out a few rivets and my wife complimented (insulted?) me by commenting how quickly I could get a rivet out...wonder where I learned that?!?!?!?</p>
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<p>Ken</p> Oh. And I know you don't want…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-25:2606393:Comment:6853852019-07-25T17:39:32.358ZJonathan Fayhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JonathanFay
<p>Oh. And I know you don't want to hear it, but go thru the plans page by page and look at every part. Then look at the assembly (A pages) that correspond to how those parts go together. That is what we had to do to answer your questions. I wish I had done that WAAAAY earlier in the project.</p>
<p>I was using the assembly guides and then referring to the documents if I got confused, but I should have read every page of the assembly and every page of the plans before pulling a single rivet and…</p>
<p>Oh. And I know you don't want to hear it, but go thru the plans page by page and look at every part. Then look at the assembly (A pages) that correspond to how those parts go together. That is what we had to do to answer your questions. I wish I had done that WAAAAY earlier in the project.</p>
<p>I was using the assembly guides and then referring to the documents if I got confused, but I should have read every page of the assembly and every page of the plans before pulling a single rivet and I would have been able to sequence my work much better.</p> The cabin doors have a gas st…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-25:2606393:Comment:6856482019-07-25T17:36:37.077ZJonathan Fayhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JonathanFay
<p>The cabin doors have a gas strut to keep them open they are attached to the cabin and the door via a AS5 rivet. They are called C75N2-10 and C75N2-9</p>
<p>The cabin doors have a gas strut to keep them open they are attached to the cabin and the door via a AS5 rivet. They are called C75N2-10 and C75N2-9</p> Thanks Jonathan, but my Pick…tag:zenith.aero,2019-07-25:2606393:Comment:6853832019-07-25T17:27:42.397ZKenneth Stapletonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/KennethStapleton
<p>Thanks Jonathan, but my Pick List shows no part listed as "Cabin door strut bracket" (I have plans for both the 750 STOL and Cruzer...that part doesn't come up in a search) Perhaps a Page # would help to remove yet another "grey area"?</p>
<p>Thanks Jonathan, but my Pick List shows no part listed as "Cabin door strut bracket" (I have plans for both the 750 STOL and Cruzer...that part doesn't come up in a search) Perhaps a Page # would help to remove yet another "grey area"?</p>