Trouble with Matco Wheels - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-28T20:45:47Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/trouble-with-matco-wheels?commentId=2606393%3AComment%3A588021&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noCongratulations, those of us…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-17:2606393:Comment:5880212017-09-17T17:37:48.699ZWalt Snyderhttps://zenith.aero/profile/WaltSnyder189
<p>Congratulations, those of us that have been down the exact same road knew we would see this post :) </p>
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<p>They're a good product, nice and light without the tube.</p>
<p>Congratulations, those of us that have been down the exact same road knew we would see this post :) </p>
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<p>They're a good product, nice and light without the tube.</p> OK so here is what has (so fa…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-17:2606393:Comment:5879282017-09-17T00:43:24.670ZJim and Amelia Isaacshttps://zenith.aero/profile/JimIsaacs
<p>OK so here is what has (so far so good) worked for me. Vaseline. Lots of it. As many have said, ensure a smooth joining of the wheel halves, and smooth edges at the center join seam. Then lube the o ring generously with petroleum jelly (an option per the Matco instructions), roll the o ring into the install position up high on the inner rim, AND lube up the entire inside surfaces of the wheels, both halves. Bolt the halves together, release the o ring into position, allowing it to pick…</p>
<p>OK so here is what has (so far so good) worked for me. Vaseline. Lots of it. As many have said, ensure a smooth joining of the wheel halves, and smooth edges at the center join seam. Then lube the o ring generously with petroleum jelly (an option per the Matco instructions), roll the o ring into the install position up high on the inner rim, AND lube up the entire inside surfaces of the wheels, both halves. Bolt the halves together, release the o ring into position, allowing it to pick up additional petroleum jelly on its way there, confirm proper position at the seam, then inflate the tire to seat the tire beads. So far so good! No leaks, confirmed with the soapy water spray bottle and 12 hours holding pressure now.</p> Forgot to mention, to break b…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-13:2606393:Comment:5879312017-09-13T23:24:56.028ZPeter Skedsvoldhttps://zenith.aero/profile/PeterSkedsvold
<p>Forgot to mention, to break beads cover top and bottom with scraps of carpet and jack up your car or pickup and place tires under jacked up vehicle tire and slowly lower onto tire to break bead on, works every time, have yet to hurt a rim or tire. GO SLOW..........</p>
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<p>( hydraulic bottle jacks work the best)</p>
<p>Forgot to mention, to break beads cover top and bottom with scraps of carpet and jack up your car or pickup and place tires under jacked up vehicle tire and slowly lower onto tire to break bead on, works every time, have yet to hurt a rim or tire. GO SLOW..........</p>
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<p>( hydraulic bottle jacks work the best)</p> First take some soapy water…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-13:2606393:Comment:5881262017-09-13T23:15:15.944ZPeter Skedsvoldhttps://zenith.aero/profile/PeterSkedsvold
<p> First take some soapy water and find which bead is leaking, break the bead on that side, then remove the bolts so you can split the rim and then pull the o-ring out and make sure the surface where the o-ring seats on both rim halves is smooth and clean ,if not polish with with fine grit emery cloth and clean all of the grit out . Bolt the rims back together and then apply silicone grease onto the area where the o-ring will seat , now take the o-ring and make sure there are no nicks or…</p>
<p> First take some soapy water and find which bead is leaking, break the bead on that side, then remove the bolts so you can split the rim and then pull the o-ring out and make sure the surface where the o-ring seats on both rim halves is smooth and clean ,if not polish with with fine grit emery cloth and clean all of the grit out . Bolt the rims back together and then apply silicone grease onto the area where the o-ring will seat , now take the o-ring and make sure there are no nicks or cuts and apply some more silicone grease onto the o-ring and roll it onto the rim on the open side, down into centre of the rims . Make sure the o-ring is all the way down and is seated evenly between halves. Clean the area on the rim where the tire seats , and apply a little 100% silicone caulk onto the bead and air the tire up. If the tire will not come back up onto the rim take a rope or nylon tie down strap ,place it around circumference or the centre of the tire tread and get it as tight as possible, then take a bar and twist the rope or strap, until the bead, moves up onto the rim and air up, and wipe excess silicone of tire and rim and FLY............</p>
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<p> Did it on both mains after replacing with tundra tires and both are still holding air after 6 months.</p> Joe,
Where did you find the c…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-12:2606393:Comment:5880782017-09-12T23:46:38.137ZJim and Amelia Isaacshttps://zenith.aero/profile/JimIsaacs
Joe,<br />
Where did you find the c clamp?<br />
Jim
Joe,<br />
Where did you find the c clamp?<br />
Jim I have found that if you coat…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-12:2606393:Comment:5878692017-09-12T15:12:36.645ZDon Morriseyhttps://zenith.aero/profile/DonaldMorrisey
<p>I have found that if you coat all the mating surfaces of the rims including the O ring, with Stan's Notubes Sealant (I used an artist paint brush) and then add a few ounces of the solution though the valve...fill with air and ...zero leaks.</p>
<p>I have found that if you coat all the mating surfaces of the rims including the O ring, with Stan's Notubes Sealant (I used an artist paint brush) and then add a few ounces of the solution though the valve...fill with air and ...zero leaks.</p> Jim
A BIG c clamp is what I u…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-12:2606393:Comment:5879702017-09-12T12:11:16.866ZJoe Spencerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JoeSpencer
<p>Jim</p>
<p>A BIG c clamp is what I use. small piece of ply top and bottom(bout a foot long) and screw the clamp down against those and it should pull the tire loose from the bead with no problem</p>
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<p>A BIG c clamp is what I use. small piece of ply top and bottom(bout a foot long) and screw the clamp down against those and it should pull the tire loose from the bead with no problem</p> ... was considering either th…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-12:2606393:Comment:5878422017-09-12T12:00:13.338ZJohn Austinhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnLAustin
<blockquote><p><span>... was considering either the HF bad breaker or using this as an excuse to buy that 20 ton drill press I've always wanted!</span></p>
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<p>I feel your pain! I've needed a bead breaker occasionally and before I get a chance to buy one, my buddy who owns a tire shop always does it for free! Darn it, another chance to buy a new tool is missed again! ;>)</p>
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<p>John</p>
<blockquote><p><span>... was considering either the HF bad breaker or using this as an excuse to buy that 20 ton drill press I've always wanted!</span></p>
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<p>I feel your pain! I've needed a bead breaker occasionally and before I get a chance to buy one, my buddy who owns a tire shop always does it for free! Darn it, another chance to buy a new tool is missed again! ;>)</p>
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<p>John</p> Joe,
Yes, I need to unseat th…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-12:2606393:Comment:5878332017-09-12T10:00:11.192ZJim and Amelia Isaacshttps://zenith.aero/profile/JimIsaacs
<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Yes, I need to unseat the tire bead from the matco rim before I can address the leaks.I don't want to use anything that will damage those soft rims and was considering either the HF bad breaker or using this as an excuse to buy that 20 ton drill press I've always wanted!</p>
<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Yes, I need to unseat the tire bead from the matco rim before I can address the leaks.I don't want to use anything that will damage those soft rims and was considering either the HF bad breaker or using this as an excuse to buy that 20 ton drill press I've always wanted!</p> John
I used 6 ply Mccreary Ai…tag:zenith.aero,2017-09-12:2606393:Comment:5879502017-09-12T00:03:30.854ZJoe Spencerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JoeSpencer
<p>John</p>
<p>I used 6 ply Mccreary Airhawk a/c tires. 8#2oz each. The 800x6 Carlisle 4 ply as supplied by ZAC weighed 6#8oz and I ran those tubeless. The tubes varied from 1#10 oz to 1#14oz each. So as much as 10# even for the Airhawk/tube combination or 30#/set vs</p>
<p>19#8oz for the Carlisle set. +10#8oz...lotta weight. My 800x6 tires had 400 hours on them and were still ok but I was prepping for a trip to the Utah outback and changed them out.</p>
<p>I wouldn't go to 6 ply unless I had a…</p>
<p>John</p>
<p>I used 6 ply Mccreary Airhawk a/c tires. 8#2oz each. The 800x6 Carlisle 4 ply as supplied by ZAC weighed 6#8oz and I ran those tubeless. The tubes varied from 1#10 oz to 1#14oz each. So as much as 10# even for the Airhawk/tube combination or 30#/set vs</p>
<p>19#8oz for the Carlisle set. +10#8oz...lotta weight. My 800x6 tires had 400 hours on them and were still ok but I was prepping for a trip to the Utah outback and changed them out.</p>
<p>I wouldn't go to 6 ply unless I had a good reason for it. It sounds like yours are wearing fast maybe you're mostly on pavement? I doubt 6 plies would wear much better if any, just carry more load and more puncture resistant</p>