Painting New Aircraft - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-28T18:29:45Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/painting-new-aircraft?feed=yes&xn_auth=noPaint Process
Now for the…tag:zenith.aero,2011-03-22:2606393:Comment:1094422011-03-22T17:19:31.896ZPhillip Owenshttps://zenith.aero/profile/PhillipOwens
<p align="center"><b><u>Paint Process</u></b></p>
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<p>Now for the basic information;</p>
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<p> Paint and process.</p>
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<p>The Paint I chose was ACE Hardware Premium Latex, the primer is ACE Hardware Galvanized and Aluminum Primer. There is also available a Latex Clear Coat made by Krylon,, the additional items you will need are Automotive windshield washer fluid, I am using the blue colored stuff, and a product called FlowTrol.</p>
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<p>First I prepare the…</p>
<p align="center"><b><u>Paint Process</u></b></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Now for the basic information;</p>
<p> </p>
<p> Paint and process.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The Paint I chose was ACE Hardware Premium Latex, the primer is ACE Hardware Galvanized and Aluminum Primer. There is also available a Latex Clear Coat made by Krylon,, the additional items you will need are Automotive windshield washer fluid, I am using the blue colored stuff, and a product called FlowTrol.</p>
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<p>First I prepare the surface with a 3-m scratch pad to give me some tooth for the primer, then clean with liquid solvent. In a coffee can I put about 1 to 1-1/2" of FlowTrol in the bottom and then add primer to about ¾ to 4/5 th's of what it would take to fill the spray gun, Then I stir and add the windshield washer fluid to thin until I can get the paint to run off the stick and go from a run to a drip between 4 and 5 seconds, you may need to experiment for yourself the adjustment that works best for you.</p>
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<p>I then strain this into my spray gun and set the air pressure at 80#psi, yes I know that is real high, I shut off the controls on the gun and then re set them spraying against a sheet of paper until I get the mix I want, then I spray the part, I use light coats and find that in using a reasonably fine mist by the time I reach from one side of the wing to the other the first part has flash dried and I can go back and add the next coat. By doing this I found the paint flowed out flat without any runs or any type of orange pealing. I laid on enough to cover the part for protection as I know I will be putting paint over it later. I use the same process with the colored paint and after only a little practice found it was very easy to put on and the results look great, but will look better after the clear coat.</p>
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<p>Latex paint runs in the area of about $20-$30 which is a lot better than the $300 a gallon for the aircraft stuff. Now does it look as good, probably not but I was not building a show plane it is a working plane and a fun to fly plane I am not looking for any trophies.</p>
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<p>Another thought which has come up since I did my project is Auto Zone and other Automotive stores carry the Dupli-color brand of paints, these are automotive paints of a lacquer base and are ready to use out of the can, this may be a little more costly but I am sure the end result would be a better looking, however, this is back to toxic or semi toxic materiel's and will require respiratory protection etc.</p>
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<p>So far the paint is holding up well and as I said I expect it to do better after clear coating it. I hope I have answered your questions and have been of some assistance, you are of course welcome to come and visit any time.</p> thanks ken!tag:zenith.aero,2011-01-07:2606393:Comment:873902011-01-07T12:14:22.555Zjoshua knowleshttps://zenith.aero/profile/joshuaknowles
thanks ken!
thanks ken! Check out the Stewart Paint…tag:zenith.aero,2011-01-07:2606393:Comment:873712011-01-07T03:38:06.438ZKen Podaimahttps://zenith.aero/profile/KenPodaima
Check out the Stewart Paint System. Its a safe to use waterborne paint and prep system. They also have how to paint videos on Youtbe
Check out the Stewart Paint System. Its a safe to use waterborne paint and prep system. They also have how to paint videos on Youtbe thanks so much for that. wil…tag:zenith.aero,2011-01-05:2606393:Comment:871842011-01-05T06:44:17.297Zjoshua knowleshttps://zenith.aero/profile/joshuaknowles
thanks so much for that. will start looking into this.!
thanks so much for that. will start looking into this.! thanks so much for this info!…tag:zenith.aero,2011-01-05:2606393:Comment:871832011-01-05T06:43:49.319Zjoshua knowleshttps://zenith.aero/profile/joshuaknowles
thanks so much for this info! Great stuff!
thanks so much for this info! Great stuff! Ok, here it is:
Paint Proces…tag:zenith.aero,2011-01-04:2606393:Comment:871072011-01-04T20:11:33.552ZPhillip Owenshttps://zenith.aero/profile/PhillipOwens
<p>Ok, here it is:</p>
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<p>Ok, here it is:</p>
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</font></font></u></b><p align="left"><b><u><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Now for the basic information; Paint and process.</font></font></u></b></p>
<p align="left"><b><u><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">The Paint I chose was ACE Hardware Premium Latex, the primer is ACE Hardware Galvanized and Aluminum Primer. There is also available a Krylon Latex Clear Coat, the additional items you will need are Automotive windshield washer fluid, I am using the blue colored stuff, and a product called FlowTrol.</font></font></u></b></p>
<p align="left"><b><u><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">First I prepare the surface with a 3-m scratch pad to give me some tooth for the primer, clean with liquid solvent, In a coffee can I put about 1to 1-1/2" of FlowTrol in the bottom and then add primer to about 3/4 to 4/5th's of what it would take to fill the spray gun, Then I stir and add the windshield washer fluid to thin until I can get the paint to run off the stick and go from a run to a drip between 4 and 5 seconds, you may need to experiment for yourself the adjustment that works best for you.</font></font></u></b></p>
<p align="left"><b><u><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">I then strain this into my spray gun and set the air pressure at 80#psi, ya I know that is real high, I shut off the controls on the gun and then re set them spraying against a sheet of paper until I get the mix I want, then I spray the part, I use light coats and find that in using a reasonably fine mist by the time I reach from one side of the wing to the other the first part has flash dried and I can go back and add the next coat. By doing this I found the paint flowed out flat without any runs or any type of orange pealing. I layed on enough to cover the part for protection as I know I will be putting paint over it later. I use the same process with the colored paint and after only a little practice found it was very easy to put on and the results look great, but will look better after the clear coat.</font></font></u></b></p>
<p align="left"><b><u><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Latex paint runs in the area of about $20-$30 which is a lot better than the $300 a gallon for the aircraft stuff and is non-toxic. Now does it look as good as the expensive stuff, probably not but I was not building a show plane it is a working plane and a fun to fly plane I am not looking for any trophy's.</font></font></u></b></p>
<p align="left"><b><u><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Another thought which has come up since I did my project is Auto Zone and other Automotive stores carry the Dupli-color brand of paints, these are automotive paints of a lacquer base and are ready to use out of the can, this may be a little more costly but I am sure the end result would be a better looking result, however, this is back to toxic or semi toxic materiel's and will require respiratory protection etc.</font></font></u></b></p>
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<p><b><u><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">So for the paint is holding up well and as I said I expect it to do better after clear coating it. I hope I have answered your questions and have been of some assistance, You a</font></font></u></b></p>
<b><u><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">re of course welcome to come and visit any time. There are photos of my plane on my page, please keep in mind I have not finished the paint process until I have flown off all of the required time.</font></font></u></b> Also you can go to your local…tag:zenith.aero,2011-01-04:2606393:Comment:870962011-01-04T18:27:22.591ZBuzz Air Flight Academyhttps://zenith.aero/profile/BuzzyDevoll
Also you can go to your local skate board shop and get the black anti skid wing material, in different colors, lengths and widths. We can also tell you how to put the decals on, as you see on the blue plane.
Also you can go to your local skate board shop and get the black anti skid wing material, in different colors, lengths and widths. We can also tell you how to put the decals on, as you see on the blue plane. Josh: Scotch bright or lightl…tag:zenith.aero,2011-01-04:2606393:Comment:870952011-01-04T18:23:05.935ZBuzz Air Flight Academyhttps://zenith.aero/profile/BuzzyDevoll
Josh: Scotch bright or lightly sand or rough the surface. Air hose off all rivets and seams. Wipe surface with a surface cleaner. Wipe on wipe off, do not let it stand. Tact cloth surface in one direction, (not circles) lightly as the wax on the cloth may enter your surface. Do not touch surface after this as the oils from your hand WILL get on your surface and WILL come through the paint. Next spray all surfaces with an etching primer, next always prime the surface with an epoxy primer as…
Josh: Scotch bright or lightly sand or rough the surface. Air hose off all rivets and seams. Wipe surface with a surface cleaner. Wipe on wipe off, do not let it stand. Tact cloth surface in one direction, (not circles) lightly as the wax on the cloth may enter your surface. Do not touch surface after this as the oils from your hand WILL get on your surface and WILL come through the paint. Next spray all surfaces with an etching primer, next always prime the surface with an epoxy primer as this is your INSURANCE that no contaminants (finger prints, wax, oils, grease etc) will come through the finished product, and that the finished product will stick to areas you missed sanding. Then apply the finished product. Two coats min. If you have painted cars you will have no problem with painting. IMPORTANT, double mask the canopy, (WRAP) the plexy glass sucks vapors to the inside cockpit glass area. After painting you can wipe it off quickly with the first clean. Make sure you tape off ALL seams, let nothing through. My husband is a State contractor and paints airplanes. I sent you some photos off his employees painting Zodiac wing mods. The photos of paint materials is top of the line. VERY COSTLY, your local auto paint store can help you with less expensive products. You do not need a pressure guage on you gun, you will need a water filter, (ON THE GUN) in addition to the tank. Drain all water out of the tank and hoses first. Start clean. If you decide to use latex house paint, spray it on with an airless. Use a double ATOMIZING tip. Double stage painting is the cheapest way to go. It is a flat auto paint with a clear coat. My husband BUZZY can guide you through the steps. 775 841 5429. You do not need an aviation paint on a home built. Gun 6 inches from surfaces, go slow, over lap 2/3rds, runs happen on the leading edge and wheel pants. Go to an auto paint shop, offer to pay someone $200 or so to come over and give you some gun time, or techniques. If you are doing a wing mod re-paint the sanding steps are different, and the primer. Good luck. tag:zenith.aero,2011-01-04:2606393:Comment:870822011-01-04T16:01:59.260ZBuzz Air Flight Academyhttps://zenith.aero/profile/BuzzyDevoll
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HI Phillip, i am really interested, my plane will be a bush plane.. i do want it to look sharp, but not looking for show stopper. would you have any pictures? maybe a close up of a colour change? i like the concept, and if you would not mind, i would take andy advice i can get joshaknowles@gmail.com cheers! josh
HI Phillip, i am really interested, my plane will be a bush plane.. i do want it to look sharp, but not looking for show stopper. would you have any pictures? maybe a close up of a colour change? i like the concept, and if you would not mind, i would take andy advice i can get joshaknowles@gmail.com cheers! josh