log books - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-29T07:23:01Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/log-books-1?commentId=2606393%3AComment%3A638942&feed=yes&xn_auth=no Carl, Sure got my attention.…tag:zenith.aero,2018-07-31:2606393:Comment:6390442018-07-31T13:52:04.690ZGil DeVaulthttps://zenith.aero/profile/GilDeVault
<p> Carl, Sure got my attention. I have my pilots log books going back to the mid sixties, but my plane log books were kept in a different place. Now I will centrally locate them keeping only my flight log with me. </p>
<p> Carl, Sure got my attention. I have my pilots log books going back to the mid sixties, but my plane log books were kept in a different place. Now I will centrally locate them keeping only my flight log with me. </p> Glad it worked out in the end…tag:zenith.aero,2018-07-31:2606393:Comment:6392652018-07-31T13:22:43.902ZCarl Ortonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/CarlOrton
<p>Glad it worked out in the end, Gil; Amazing the power of some sheets of paper, eh?</p>
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<p>Glad it worked out in the end, Gil; Amazing the power of some sheets of paper, eh?</p>
<p></p> thanks for the information Ga…tag:zenith.aero,2018-07-30:2606393:Comment:6390192018-07-30T20:52:22.385ZGil DeVaulthttps://zenith.aero/profile/GilDeVault
<p>thanks for the information Gary. I panicked to soon. All my log books have been found, and now will be kept in a safe secure spot. I will also take photos of each page and store. It was really a kick to the gut when I could no longer find them , and such a relief when I did. </p>
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<p>thanks for the information Gary. I panicked to soon. All my log books have been found, and now will be kept in a safe secure spot. I will also take photos of each page and store. It was really a kick to the gut when I could no longer find them , and such a relief when I did. </p>
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<p>Gil</p> This link has some useful inf…tag:zenith.aero,2018-07-30:2606393:Comment:6389422018-07-30T20:02:56.167ZGary Welchhttps://zenith.aero/profile/GaryWelch
<p>This link has some useful info:</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2000/january/02/lost-logbooks" target="_blank">https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2000/january/02/lost-logbooks</a></p>
<p>This link has some useful info:</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2000/january/02/lost-logbooks" target="_blank">https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2000/january/02/lost-logbooks</a></p> I'll probably think of someth…tag:zenith.aero,2018-07-29:2606393:Comment:6389032018-07-29T21:42:12.392ZCarl Ortonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/CarlOrton
<p>I'll probably think of something else later, but my biggest concern right now would be the loss of the required language saying you completed Phase 1 testing and the weight at which you tested it, along with the date, stall speeds, etc. Without that assertion, I'm assuming you're limited to your Phase 1 flight test area. Yes, you have condition inspections which reflect dates & hours, but I don't know how picky the FAA or a judge would be not having that required language. Seriously,…</p>
<p>I'll probably think of something else later, but my biggest concern right now would be the loss of the required language saying you completed Phase 1 testing and the weight at which you tested it, along with the date, stall speeds, etc. Without that assertion, I'm assuming you're limited to your Phase 1 flight test area. Yes, you have condition inspections which reflect dates & hours, but I don't know how picky the FAA or a judge would be not having that required language. Seriously, I just don't know. It may be less of an issue than I think.</p>
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<p>Give 'em a few days to decompress and call the EAA. Alternatively, if you have AOPA legal services, I'd call them.</p> Gary I have copies of all the…tag:zenith.aero,2018-07-29:2606393:Comment:6387982018-07-29T13:16:19.318ZGil DeVaulthttps://zenith.aero/profile/GilDeVault
<p>Gary I have copies of all the Conditional inspections, including the one I had last fall. Is that all I will need? I switch to a smaller flight bag before I left for up north and some house cleaning was done. Afraid my log books are gone forever, but like I said I have all the original conditional reports. I wasn't sure of the legal requirements.</p>
<p>Gary I have copies of all the Conditional inspections, including the one I had last fall. Is that all I will need? I switch to a smaller flight bag before I left for up north and some house cleaning was done. Afraid my log books are gone forever, but like I said I have all the original conditional reports. I wasn't sure of the legal requirements.</p> I think the real issue is if…tag:zenith.aero,2018-07-29:2606393:Comment:6389522018-07-29T01:56:10.589ZGary Welchhttps://zenith.aero/profile/GaryWelch
<p>I think the real issue is if you ever try to sell the plane. Not having any documented history will force a buyer to assume certain things - like the engine is run out, regardless of how many hours on it. That can make a significant difference in the aircraft value, obviously.</p>
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<p>You may want to at least try and recreate the history from whatever records, or memory, available. Buy new books and fill them out as honestly and as best you can. As a minimum record as much as you can…</p>
<p>I think the real issue is if you ever try to sell the plane. Not having any documented history will force a buyer to assume certain things - like the engine is run out, regardless of how many hours on it. That can make a significant difference in the aircraft value, obviously.</p>
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<p>You may want to at least try and recreate the history from whatever records, or memory, available. Buy new books and fill them out as honestly and as best you can. As a minimum record as much as you can remember about your last condition inspection so you at least having a document proving the aircraft is airworthy.</p>
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<p>I have to thank you for posting this because just today I finished my condition inspection and your post made me realize I have no record copies of my engine/airframe/prop logs. Thanks to your post I will photograph all the pages in them tomorrow. </p>
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<p>I have photo backups of my flying log book but it never crossed my mind to photo the aircraft logs. </p>
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<p>Sorry for your misfortune, Gil!</p>