Inspecting a CH701 and Jabiru 2200 on Monday got any suggestions? - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-29T06:34:06Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/inspecting-a-ch701-and-jabiru-2200-on-monday-got-any-suggestions?commentId=2606393%3AComment%3A278220&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHave an opportunity to buy a…tag:zenith.aero,2018-02-25:2606393:Comment:6159542018-02-25T15:55:12.737ZJim Cateshttps://zenith.aero/profile/JimCates
<p>Have an opportunity to buy a 2003 2200.....SN# 1572. Does this engine have the larger cooling fins....Intend to use in my CH701</p>
<p>Have an opportunity to buy a 2003 2200.....SN# 1572. Does this engine have the larger cooling fins....Intend to use in my CH701</p> Shafid blogged to Zenair foru…tag:zenith.aero,2013-04-15:2606393:Comment:2792282013-04-15T20:07:58.740ZChris Streathttps://zenith.aero/profile/ChrisStreat
<p>Shafid blogged to Zenair forum on 2 Nov 2011 can only get 2600RPM full throttle for take off on 1997 Jabiru and on 26 Jan 2012 posted for information on UL260i to replace the 1997 Jabiru and 2 Oct 2010 Prop broken</p>
<p>Shafid blogged to Zenair forum on 2 Nov 2011 can only get 2600RPM full throttle for take off on 1997 Jabiru and on 26 Jan 2012 posted for information on UL260i to replace the 1997 Jabiru and 2 Oct 2010 Prop broken</p> did you know that Apple and A…tag:zenith.aero,2013-04-15:2606393:Comment:2793632013-04-15T19:57:01.315ZChris Streathttps://zenith.aero/profile/ChrisStreat
<p>did you know that Apple and Android smart phones have accelerometers in them with free APPS to download G meters to fill in the flight envelope picture on what G's you are experiencing in nor west.lee rotor conditions here. At gliding competitions friend had one, reported +6 but we tend to cane it compared to slowing down as you describe</p>
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<p>did you know that Apple and Android smart phones have accelerometers in them with free APPS to download G meters to fill in the flight envelope picture on what G's you are experiencing in nor west.lee rotor conditions here. At gliding competitions friend had one, reported +6 but we tend to cane it compared to slowing down as you describe</p>
<p></p> yes they handle heaps I got s…tag:zenith.aero,2013-04-15:2606393:Comment:2791972013-04-15T08:06:15.079ZDeane Philiphttps://zenith.aero/profile/DeanePhilip
yes they handle heaps I got smacked in a 20 to 25knt norwester just slowed down and let the 701 ride it out what a plane it is<br />
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yes they handle heaps I got smacked in a 20 to 25knt norwester just slowed down and let the 701 ride it out what a plane it is<br />
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<p>I agree with the guts of what your saying Dean, my thoughts are that Shafid has proven that KHA is a reliable machine, due solely to his preventive maintainance, And it has payed off for him in reliability. I think the value for money comes down to how much more life you may get out of the Jab before having to re engine. And thats some thing no one can predict.I guess if i was in the market for a 701 right now I might take a punt on it knowing that i might have to re engine reasonably soon -…</p>
<p>I agree with the guts of what your saying Dean, my thoughts are that Shafid has proven that KHA is a reliable machine, due solely to his preventive maintainance, And it has payed off for him in reliability. I think the value for money comes down to how much more life you may get out of the Jab before having to re engine. And thats some thing no one can predict.I guess if i was in the market for a 701 right now I might take a punt on it knowing that i might have to re engine reasonably soon - heck you would get to fly home though, thats always a buzz.</p>
<p>As a footnote i am always impressed with how the 701 shrugs off turbulence, On the way home yesterday I got a shit kicking in the back of Mt Peel, just slowed up and let the plane deal with it, very confidence inspiring. Cheers Colly.</p> to my knowledge there is no 7…tag:zenith.aero,2013-04-15:2606393:Comment:2791802013-04-15T03:25:27.342ZDeane Philiphttps://zenith.aero/profile/DeanePhilip
<p>to my knowledge there is no 750 or 801 in NZ so yes first of would be required</p>
<p>to my knowledge there is no 750 or 801 in NZ so yes first of would be required</p> Hi Deane, Thanks for your imp…tag:zenith.aero,2013-04-14:2606393:Comment:2788962013-04-14T23:35:09.905ZChris Streathttps://zenith.aero/profile/ChrisStreat
<p>Hi Deane, Thanks for your importing experience on 701 in particular. I've imported 23m span motor glider in its trailer from East Coast USA cost about $10k in 2006 as roll on roll off cargo. A possible way to import a Zenair to NZ would be have a trailer built for' roll on roll off export from USA. Someone advised me the old 1997 jabirus can have the cooling fins updated too assist cooling and other improvements to assist their unreliability. Would CAA first of type certificate required for…</p>
<p>Hi Deane, Thanks for your importing experience on 701 in particular. I've imported 23m span motor glider in its trailer from East Coast USA cost about $10k in 2006 as roll on roll off cargo. A possible way to import a Zenair to NZ would be have a trailer built for' roll on roll off export from USA. Someone advised me the old 1997 jabirus can have the cooling fins updated too assist cooling and other improvements to assist their unreliability. Would CAA first of type certificate required for 750 and 801? I haven't checked the register</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Chris Streat.</p> Chris from what I understand…tag:zenith.aero,2013-04-14:2606393:Comment:2790922013-04-14T22:33:59.235ZDeane Philiphttps://zenith.aero/profile/DeanePhilip
<p>Chris from what I understand the owner Shafid Khan flies this machine all over New Zealand north and south and accross the cook straight all you need to do is look at his pictures he is own this site also through the 701 community in NZ i learned he also regularly services and does maintenance on the Jabiru which I would think is just common sense if you fly a older Jabiru. I understand he has always maintained it to the highest of standards more so than anyone one else I have heard that own…</p>
<p>Chris from what I understand the owner Shafid Khan flies this machine all over New Zealand north and south and accross the cook straight all you need to do is look at his pictures he is own this site also through the 701 community in NZ i learned he also regularly services and does maintenance on the Jabiru which I would think is just common sense if you fly a older Jabiru. I understand he has always maintained it to the highest of standards more so than anyone one else I have heard that own Jabiru. as for his price I believe is about 46k buy now NZD that is a great price for such a well built plane that is flying at that price you could repower in the future with 912uls and still have a machine under market value. you find me a well built 701 with a 912uls in NZ for under 80-100k if you can buy it I went to the states to buy mine hunted for a long time went there personally and flew it then broke it down and shipped it home buy the time you do all that you will still be spending a lot more than 46k and a 750 complete will not fit in a 20 foot container the 701 wings off tail and elevator off fits with about 100mm clearance depending on where in the states it is it will cost between 6 and 16k to ship a 20ft container as for a 40foot who knows then customs maf then CAA and man have the CAA prices gone up doubled since I did mine and that was several thousand so I would think much less hassel to repower a well built one here than try to import, I went to the states because people just do not sell them here very often as they are way to much fun</p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>Deane (ZK-JUG) </p> I had a lot of difficulty und…tag:zenith.aero,2013-04-11:2606393:Comment:2784352013-04-11T22:56:18.238ZRalph Sansonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/RalphSanson
<p>I had a lot of difficulty understanding the placement of the airspeed markings, and used the Wiki as well to help. There is an article by Chris Heintz dated June 2009. On mine the green arc changes to yellow at the Vno speed and that yellow arc is terminated with a red radial line at vne. only the white arc is overlapping some of the green. If I take the asi out I will add a yellow radial line at Va the design manouvering speed 62 kts, as described in the article.</p>
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<p>I had a lot of difficulty understanding the placement of the airspeed markings, and used the Wiki as well to help. There is an article by Chris Heintz dated June 2009. On mine the green arc changes to yellow at the Vno speed and that yellow arc is terminated with a red radial line at vne. only the white arc is overlapping some of the green. If I take the asi out I will add a yellow radial line at Va the design manouvering speed 62 kts, as described in the article.</p>
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<p>Your attachment is from a copy of a CZAW manual, for the 1100lb rev-4 plans version (serial numbers after 7-4511) but I think the airframe you were applying it to had a serial of 7-2026 so unless the rev-4 plans were incorporated in the build (there is over 40 parts different) those numbers are not the same.</p>
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<p>However, being a lightweight, with a light engine, it probably takes a similar payload and performs better than the 'SP' or 'fat ultralight' version</p>
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<p>This article is a very good read for what to look for on the 701</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.acomodata.com/zenair701/index.htm">http://www.acomodata.com/zenair701/index.htm</a></p>
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<p></p> I have been given a reasonabl…tag:zenith.aero,2013-04-11:2606393:Comment:2784252013-04-11T19:03:45.531ZChris Streathttps://zenith.aero/profile/ChrisStreat
<p>I have been given a reasonable explanation that the yellow arc low point of 62kt in the 2006 CH701 manual I looked at was wrong and that the following applies:</p>
<p>" maneuvering speed is marked on the panel. If you look in the manual at the speed limitation on the page above airspeed indicator markings it states VNO is 78 KTS.That is the start of the yellow line."</p>
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<p>A direct reading of the manual has the green and yellow arcs overlapping from 62kt to 78k. I attach photo of…</p>
<p>I have been given a reasonable explanation that the yellow arc low point of 62kt in the 2006 CH701 manual I looked at was wrong and that the following applies:</p>
<p>" maneuvering speed is marked on the panel. If you look in the manual at the speed limitation on the page above airspeed indicator markings it states VNO is 78 KTS.That is the start of the yellow line."</p>
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<p>A direct reading of the manual has the green and yellow arcs overlapping from 62kt to 78k. I attach photo of manual. It is acceptable on most aircraft to have smooth airspeed limitation in green and yellow arc provided a separate placard in place for VA maneuvering speed. Wikipedia have good article on airspeed placards at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_speeds" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_speeds</a> . A prudent person might make their yellow arc go down to 62kt so that itinerant pilots dont overspeed while manouvering, while more experienced pilots in type understand they can smooth air to 78Kt.</p>