Flight planning - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-28T10:12:30Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/flight-planning?commentId=2606393%3AComment%3A592205&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJoe, that was pretty amazing.…tag:zenith.aero,2018-01-16:2606393:Comment:6073412018-01-16T23:21:02.445ZJimmy Younghttps://zenith.aero/profile/JimmyYoung
<p>Joe, that was pretty amazing. I think this video should be re-posted to the ZenithAero site in it's own special post. I also can't believe we can still do this. Very well done.</p>
<p>Joe, that was pretty amazing. I think this video should be re-posted to the ZenithAero site in it's own special post. I also can't believe we can still do this. Very well done.</p> Very nice video, makes me wan…tag:zenith.aero,2018-01-15:2606393:Comment:6071722018-01-15T04:35:16.073ZJonathan Kreilichhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JonathanKreilich
<p>Very nice video, makes me want to go do that also!!</p>
<p>Very nice video, makes me want to go do that also!!</p> Very cool, Joe! Thanks for th…tag:zenith.aero,2018-01-15:2606393:Comment:6069392018-01-15T04:02:41.223ZJoe Harringtonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JoeHarrington
<p>Very cool, Joe! Thanks for the vid. Book marked that right next to Walt’s flight up the Hudson. You guys are in a pretty small club (folks who flew a plane they built by all those historic land marks.)!<br/> Cheers,<br/> Joe</p>
<p>Very cool, Joe! Thanks for the vid. Book marked that right next to Walt’s flight up the Hudson. You guys are in a pretty small club (folks who flew a plane they built by all those historic land marks.)!<br/> Cheers,<br/> Joe</p> https://www.youtube.com/watch…tag:zenith.aero,2018-01-15:2606393:Comment:6069322018-01-15T00:41:35.682ZJoe Spencerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JoeSpencer
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCoFiO_a9mg" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCoFiO_a9mg</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCoFiO_a9mg" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCoFiO_a9mg</a></p> Wayne - I believe you and I a…tag:zenith.aero,2017-10-26:2606393:Comment:5942222017-10-26T02:32:12.533ZRodney Wrenhttps://zenith.aero/profile/RodneyWren
<p>Wayne - I believe you and I are in agreement that the pilot must be sure we have briefed the flight, using what ever means we like best, and then make sure we fly safely. I have had electronics fail - that is why I have backups on different platforms. </p>
<p>Different flights require different levels of flight planning- and different resources. Glad we have so many different platforms to choose from. From free internet sites to programs that provide applications and resources for very…</p>
<p>Wayne - I believe you and I are in agreement that the pilot must be sure we have briefed the flight, using what ever means we like best, and then make sure we fly safely. I have had electronics fail - that is why I have backups on different platforms. </p>
<p>Different flights require different levels of flight planning- and different resources. Glad we have so many different platforms to choose from. From free internet sites to programs that provide applications and resources for very nominal fees. </p>
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<p>Joe - what an awesome flight going thru the VFR corridor. Sure wish you would write a separate thread on how you planned the flight, the resources you used, and then a detailed description of the flight. Where did you start, who did you have to contact, etc. Sounds like flying thru the belly of the beast - and you did it in a 701. How cool!</p>
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<p> </p> Wayne if you want detailed in…tag:zenith.aero,2017-10-25:2606393:Comment:5944502017-10-25T22:52:47.879ZJoe Spencerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JoeSpencer
<p>Wayne if you want detailed info on the Hudson corridor I suggest you google a bit there's lots of online info</p>
<p>I'm not sure what you're saying with the accident report...it's irrelevant to the 701 and the Hudson(and probably the East River but I haven't studied or flown that). It's more relevant to PIC incompetency.</p>
<p>Like I said, flying the Hudson is no sweat, especially in a 701.</p>
<p>Wayne if you want detailed info on the Hudson corridor I suggest you google a bit there's lots of online info</p>
<p>I'm not sure what you're saying with the accident report...it's irrelevant to the 701 and the Hudson(and probably the East River but I haven't studied or flown that). It's more relevant to PIC incompetency.</p>
<p>Like I said, flying the Hudson is no sweat, especially in a 701.</p> Apparently, I also stand corr…tag:zenith.aero,2017-10-25:2606393:Comment:5943612017-10-25T21:56:18.802ZWayne Tysonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/WayneTyson482
<p>Apparently, I also stand corrected on the location of the cited accident--the East River corridor, not the Hudson.</p>
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<p>WT</p>
<p>Apparently, I also stand corrected on the location of the cited accident--the East River corridor, not the Hudson.</p>
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<p>WT</p> I stand corrected.
From Wiki…tag:zenith.aero,2017-10-25:2606393:Comment:5942942017-10-25T21:21:36.186ZWayne Tysonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/WayneTyson482
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: times new roman,serif; font-size: large;">I stand corrected. <br></br><br></br></div>
<p>From Wikipedia: "The NTSB's final hearing on May 1, 2007 determined that "the pilots’ inadequate planning, judgment, and airmanship in the performance of a 180-degree turn maneuver inside of a limited turning space" caused the crash.…<sup class="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-reference" id="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-cite_ref-DCA07MA003_30-1"></sup></p>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: times new roman,serif; font-size: large;">I stand corrected. <br/><br/></div>
<p>From Wikipedia: "The NTSB's final hearing on May 1, 2007 determined that "the pilots’ inadequate planning, judgment, and airmanship in the performance of a 180-degree turn maneuver inside of a limited turning space" caused the crash.<sup id="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-cite_ref-DCA07MA003_30-1" class="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-reference"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_New_York_City_plane_crash#cite_note-DCA07MA003-30" target="_blank">[30]</a></sup> The investigation was unable to determine whether Lidle or Stanger was at the controls. Although there was 2,100 feet (640 m) of space available, the aircraft used only about 1,700 feet (520 m) of width in which to make the 180-degree turn—but this distance was effectively reduced to 1,300 feet (400 m) by the <span style="color: #ff0000;">13-knot</span> (24 km/h) <span style="color: #ff0000;">easterly winds</span> that day. A <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banked_turn" title="Banked turn" target="_blank">bank angle</a> of at least 53 degrees would be required to successfully execute a 180-degree turn in this distance. If the required bank was not initiated early then, as the turn progressed, the bank angle would have needed to have been increased, possibly resulting in an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stall_%28flight%29" class="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-mw-redirect" title="Stall (flight)" target="_blank">aerodynamic stall</a>. The investigation was unable to determine if the plane was stalled at the time of the crash. An animation of the flight path combining radar data with a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Guard" class="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-mw-redirect" title="Coast Guard" target="_blank">Coast Guard</a> video of the East River was also presented.<sup id="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-cite_ref-AW.26ST_May_7_10-1" class="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-reference"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_New_York_City_plane_crash#cite_note-AW.26ST_May_7-10" target="_blank">[10]</a></sup><sup id="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-cite_ref-31" class="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-reference"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_New_York_City_plane_crash#cite_note-31" target="_blank">[31]</a></sup><sup id="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-cite_ref-32" class="m_-8243092283210765438gmail-reference"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_New_York_City_plane_crash#cite_note-32" target="_blank">[32]</a></sup><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_New_York_City_plane_crash#cite_note-33" target="_blank">[33]</a>"<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br/></font></span></p>
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<p>Has the corridor been extended or did you have ATC clearance?</p>
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<p>WT</p>
<p></p> Agreed.tag:zenith.aero,2017-10-25:2606393:Comment:5944482017-10-25T20:58:23.753ZWayne Tysonhttps://zenith.aero/profile/WayneTyson482
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>Agreed.</p> Wayne
There's no flight follo…tag:zenith.aero,2017-10-25:2606393:Comment:5941322017-10-25T12:40:36.239ZJoe Spencerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/JoeSpencer
<p>Wayne</p>
<p>There's no flight following but there's a common freq and mandatory reporting points so everybody can keep up with where the others are. sort of.</p>
<p>and no dead end...we flew all the way up to West Point before turning around and coming back down thru the corridor again.</p>
<p>The corridor is a no sweat flight. very easy and well designed.</p>
<p>Wayne</p>
<p>There's no flight following but there's a common freq and mandatory reporting points so everybody can keep up with where the others are. sort of.</p>
<p>and no dead end...we flew all the way up to West Point before turning around and coming back down thru the corridor again.</p>
<p>The corridor is a no sweat flight. very easy and well designed.</p>