? Electric Pop Rivet Gun Options - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-29T00:26:48Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/electric-pop-rivet-gun-options?commentId=2606393%3AComment%3A762836&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI used a metal lathe and an S…tag:zenith.aero,2023-12-23:2606393:Comment:9211742023-12-23T04:45:47.144ZMike Chapmanhttps://zenith.aero/profile/MikeChapman
<p>I used a metal lathe and an SE-5 carbide bur (from <strong><a href="https://www.mcmaster.com/43035a68" rel="noopener" target="_blank">McMaster-Carr</a>)</strong> to machine the nose pieces. Carbide burs are available other places including…</p>
<p>I used a metal lathe and an SE-5 carbide bur (from <strong><a href="https://www.mcmaster.com/43035a68" target="_blank" rel="noopener">McMaster-Carr</a>)</strong> to machine the nose pieces. Carbide burs are available other places including <strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dedeco-12815-Carbide-Single-Cut-Oval/dp/B00NWHSZAU/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1E29GDJ7WX52Y&keywords=SE-5+carbide+bur&qid=1703303867&sprefix=se-5+carbide+bur%2Caps%2C98&sr=8-8" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/07242381" target="_blank" rel="noopener">MSCDirect</a>,</strong> and <strong><a href="https://www.grainger.com/product/APPROVED-VENDOR-Oval-Bur-SE-Single-Cut-22XZ13" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Grainger</a>. </strong></p>
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<p><strong>Regardless where you obtain the bur, be sure you <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>USE A SINGLE-CUT BUR</em></span> to get a smooth finish.</strong></p>
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<p>Machining the nose pieces can be done without a lathe. If you have the Milwaukee Rivet Tool, I suggest you remove the nose-piece holder from the Rivet Tool, clamp the holder vertically in a drill press vise, ensure the nose piece is snug in the holder, and use the carbide bur in the drill press to machine the nose piece. It really isn't a difficult process, and it only takes a few minutes.</p>
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<p></p> How did you machine them?tag:zenith.aero,2023-12-21:2606393:Comment:9210022023-12-21T18:59:47.642ZJohn Myershttps://zenith.aero/profile/JohnMyers
<p>How did you machine them?</p>
<p>How did you machine them?</p> Pics of the results. The hand…tag:zenith.aero,2020-12-07:2606393:Comment:7877052020-12-07T19:18:57.687ZDavid L. Smithhttps://zenith.aero/profile/DavidLSmith
<p>Pics of the results. The hand riveter is Zenith factory and the gun is my modifications. I also polished the tips for the hand riveter while I was at it. </p>
<p>Pics of the results. The hand riveter is Zenith factory and the gun is my modifications. I also polished the tips for the hand riveter while I was at it. </p> Don,
I ground, shaped and po…tag:zenith.aero,2020-11-30:2606393:Comment:7824232020-11-30T13:35:07.016ZDavid L. Smithhttps://zenith.aero/profile/DavidLSmith
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<p>I ground, shaped and polished the tips that came with the Grapow gun. There was plenty of material and the metal was hardened. I ground the tips with a carbide ball burr and polished them with a small Cratex disc. </p>
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<p>I ground, shaped and polished the tips that came with the Grapow gun. There was plenty of material and the metal was hardened. I ground the tips with a carbide ball burr and polished them with a small Cratex disc. </p> The Girapow Cordless rivet gu…tag:zenith.aero,2020-11-23:2606393:Comment:7774822020-11-23T04:54:03.535ZMike Chapmanhttps://zenith.aero/profile/MikeChapman
<p>The <a href="https://www.girapow.com/productinfo/481786.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Girapow Cordless rivet gun</a> is available at an attractive price point. It seems like a good deal; but, there are a couple things I took into consideration:</p>
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<li>The Girapow brand is not familiar to me. I am not being critical of the tool...I just prefer tools from a company that has an established reputation.</li>
<li>The length from the tip of the nose piece to the back end of…</li>
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<p>The <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.girapow.com/productinfo/481786.html" target="_blank">Girapow Cordless rivet gun</a> is available at an attractive price point. It seems like a good deal; but, there are a couple things I took into consideration:</p>
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<li>The Girapow brand is not familiar to me. I am not being critical of the tool...I just prefer tools from a company that has an established reputation.</li>
<li>The length from the tip of the nose piece to the back end of the motor housing is significantly longer than that of the Milwaukee tool...or most of the pneumatic rivet pullers. That is especially true if you remove the stem catcher from the Milwaukee rivet gun. Note: This consideration applies to the Astro (and similar) adapters that are used on cordless drills. There are some places where that extra length will make it more difficult to pull the rivets.</li>
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<p>I hope the Girapow tool is a great success and that we get to hear more about it as the Zenith builders put them to the test.</p>
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<p>Mike</p> Mike, the Grapow gun listed a…tag:zenith.aero,2020-11-22:2606393:Comment:7773552020-11-22T19:52:26.568ZDavid L. Smithhttps://zenith.aero/profile/DavidLSmith
<p>Mike, the Grapow gun listed above from Amazon is a full cycle gun that pulls, pops and then resets automatically. Dropping the stem. No need to reverse the gun. Seems a good value for $149. </p>
<p>Mike, the Grapow gun listed above from Amazon is a full cycle gun that pulls, pops and then resets automatically. Dropping the stem. No need to reverse the gun. Seems a good value for $149. </p> Thanks John. The tips do not…tag:zenith.aero,2020-11-22:2606393:Comment:7772742020-11-22T19:47:06.832ZDavid L. Smithhttps://zenith.aero/profile/DavidLSmith
<p>Thanks John. The tips do not interchange. So I'll be using Dan's method to profile the tips on my electric puller. Good info.</p>
<p>Thanks John. The tips do not interchange. So I'll be using Dan's method to profile the tips on my electric puller. Good info.</p> Don,
The Grapow looked like…tag:zenith.aero,2020-11-22:2606393:Comment:7772122020-11-22T19:26:45.799ZDavid L. Smithhttps://zenith.aero/profile/DavidLSmith
<p>Don, </p>
<p>The Grapow looked like it might be a close match. I purchased it and found that the diameter is the same but the pitch is slightly different. Couple of options to remedy. Grind the Grapow tips to match or retap the Grapow teceiver to accept the Zenith tips. I'll report back after I get back from a visit home and my shop after the Thanksgiving holiday. </p>
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<p>The Grapow looked like it might be a close match. I purchased it and found that the diameter is the same but the pitch is slightly different. Couple of options to remedy. Grind the Grapow tips to match or retap the Grapow teceiver to accept the Zenith tips. I'll report back after I get back from a visit home and my shop after the Thanksgiving holiday. </p> tag:zenith.aero,2020-11-03:2606393:Comment:7642512020-11-03T02:55:53.498ZMike Chapmanhttps://zenith.aero/profile/MikeChapman
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<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8116643671?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8116643671?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-left" width="640"/></a></p> Hi David, You can modify the…tag:zenith.aero,2020-11-03:2606393:Comment:7640572020-11-03T01:44:17.029ZLarry Zepphttps://zenith.aero/profile/LarryZepp
<p>Hi David, You can modify the nose piece of any standard rivet gun to the Zenith system. Order a 5/16 "dia (first choice) or 3/8"ball cutter with a 1/4"shaft often used in die grinders. If you want a good one that doesn't dull after several airplanes, order carbide. The spiral flutes should make a smooth cut - not too aggressive. Set up the ball cutter in the chuck of a drill press and hold the nose piece for the size rivet you want in the drill press vise.</p>
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<p>Use calipers or a…</p>
<p>Hi David, You can modify the nose piece of any standard rivet gun to the Zenith system. Order a 5/16 "dia (first choice) or 3/8"ball cutter with a 1/4"shaft often used in die grinders. If you want a good one that doesn't dull after several airplanes, order carbide. The spiral flutes should make a smooth cut - not too aggressive. Set up the ball cutter in the chuck of a drill press and hold the nose piece for the size rivet you want in the drill press vise.</p>
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<p>Use calipers or a scale to measure the diameter of the rivet flange- either 1/8"or 5/32". You want the conical depression to end up the same diameter as the rivet. Make one for each size. Then go try a couple of rivets and adjust if necessary. This also adds the recess to the angled rivet setters for tight spots. I have done this to 4 different riveters and it works the same as the Zenith one. Larry Zepp, Zenith Zodiac N22LZ - getting close.</p>