Data Logging with the Viking 130 - Zenith Aircraft Builders and Flyers2024-03-29T08:57:35Zhttps://zenith.aero/forum/topics/data-logging-with-the-viking-130?commentId=2606393%3AComment%3A610577&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Patrick,
Glenn messag…tag:zenith.aero,2022-08-07:2606393:Comment:8756732022-08-07T17:40:09.177ZJim Davishttps://zenith.aero/profile/JimDavis449
<p>Thanks Patrick,</p>
<p> Glenn messaged me some of that info and his thoughts too, It's unfortunate the data logger isn't more robust.</p>
<p> GRT does have a can bus adapter but it's not tailored to the Viking/Honda. Maybe if enough of us showed interest they'd put some development time into it?</p>
<p> I'm back to just "Viking View does everything I need" - sometimes just want more colors on the screen though LOL.</p>
<p> - Jim</p>
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<p>Thanks Patrick,</p>
<p> Glenn messaged me some of that info and his thoughts too, It's unfortunate the data logger isn't more robust.</p>
<p> GRT does have a can bus adapter but it's not tailored to the Viking/Honda. Maybe if enough of us showed interest they'd put some development time into it?</p>
<p> I'm back to just "Viking View does everything I need" - sometimes just want more colors on the screen though LOL.</p>
<p> - Jim</p>
<p></p> Hi Jim - sorry for the late r…tag:zenith.aero,2022-08-05:2606393:Comment:8754352022-08-05T15:07:28.332ZPatrick Hoythttps://zenith.aero/profile/PatrickHoyt
<p>Hi Jim - sorry for the late reply. </p>
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<p>My data logger quit working a while back, so I've not been able to explore this further. I turned it back in to Viking to see if they had any ideas. </p>
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<p>I too am looking at the GRT for logging on my next project (750 Cruzer with a Viking 130). My need for instrumentation is still a solid 2+ years out, so I'm hoping to benefit from some technological evolution between now and then. If I could simply log TAS, Fuel Flow, and RPM…</p>
<p>Hi Jim - sorry for the late reply. </p>
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<p>My data logger quit working a while back, so I've not been able to explore this further. I turned it back in to Viking to see if they had any ideas. </p>
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<p>I too am looking at the GRT for logging on my next project (750 Cruzer with a Viking 130). My need for instrumentation is still a solid 2+ years out, so I'm hoping to benefit from some technological evolution between now and then. If I could simply log TAS, Fuel Flow, and RPM all in the same log, I could do a lot with that, and anything else would be icing on the cake...</p>
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<p>One thing that I'm looking at is using the GRT EIS-4000 (admittedly a dated device) to feed engine data to an iPad via the iLevil AutoPilot. Couple things right off the bat that are concerns is (1) the iLevil app only DISPLAYS engine data, it does not LOG it like it does with the rest of the flight data (Ananda told me it's a hardware limitation, and the vibe I got was that it's not something that's likely to ever be fixed); and (2) my experience with iPads in the air has been less than satisfactory, but the iLevel AP requires the iPad so I'm kinda stuck there.</p>
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<p>I suppose I could bite the bullet and go with full Dynon, but that's bulky and pricy, and I'd still want the iLevel AutoPilot anyway.</p>
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<p>Am logging data via an EI CRG-30P on my other (certificated) airplane, with mixed feelings about that. We in the experimental world can do so much better...</p>
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<p>Patrick Hoyt</p>
<p>N63PZ</p>
<p>N63TZ</p>
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<p></p> Hi Patrick and/or Samuel,
Do…tag:zenith.aero,2022-06-26:2606393:Comment:8723312022-06-26T16:45:02.118ZJim Davishttps://zenith.aero/profile/JimDavis449
<p>Hi Patrick and/or Samuel,</p>
<p> Do you still enjoy working with the data logging? I've been toying around with the idea again, especially the idea of funneling the can bus data into the grt efis.</p>
<p> Thanks - Jim</p>
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<p>Hi Patrick and/or Samuel,</p>
<p> Do you still enjoy working with the data logging? I've been toying around with the idea again, especially the idea of funneling the can bus data into the grt efis.</p>
<p> Thanks - Jim</p>
<p></p> According to SCS Delta, FAT32…tag:zenith.aero,2018-03-16:2606393:Comment:6193892018-03-16T21:52:37.566ZSamuel Warnerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/SamWarner
<p>According to <a href="https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/support" target="_blank" rel="noopener">SCS Delta</a>, <strong>FAT32</strong> is what the format should be for the 8 gigabyte SD card.</p>
<p>According to <a href="https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/support" target="_blank" rel="noopener">SCS Delta</a>, <strong>FAT32</strong> is what the format should be for the 8 gigabyte SD card.</p> I configured the data logger…tag:zenith.aero,2018-03-15:2606393:Comment:6191402018-03-15T23:50:13.424ZSamuel Warnerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/SamWarner
<p>I configured the data logger (<a href="https://youtu.be/vC186fD236w" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/vC186fD236w</a>), connected the DB9 plug from the engine’s ECU harness, and then test ran the engine. The green light was on during the test run, so it's getting power, but it did not flash as the instructions said it would (<a href="http://www.sxtune.co.uk/deltalog.html" target="_blank">http://www.sxtune.co.uk/deltalog.html</a>). I plugged the SD card into my computer and it shows up as…</p>
<p>I configured the data logger (<a href="https://youtu.be/vC186fD236w" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/vC186fD236w</a>), connected the DB9 plug from the engine’s ECU harness, and then test ran the engine. The green light was on during the test run, so it's getting power, but it did not flash as the instructions said it would (<a href="http://www.sxtune.co.uk/deltalog.html" target="_blank">http://www.sxtune.co.uk/deltalog.html</a>). I plugged the SD card into my computer and it shows up as an empty drive. It's not logging data, and I’m not sure why. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯</p> Sure, Sam - I'll give you a c…tag:zenith.aero,2018-03-15:2606393:Comment:6192992018-03-15T12:14:16.218ZPatrick Hoythttps://zenith.aero/profile/PatrickHoyt
Sure, Sam - I'll give you a call this evening after work. In the meantime, here's some notes on how I set mine up, and where you can get some more info.<br />
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Hardware: <a href="https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/product-page/copy-of-can-usb-interface" target="_blank">https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/product-page/copy-of-can-usb-interface</a><br />
Software: <a href="https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/software" target="_blank">https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/software</a><br />
Documentation:…
Sure, Sam - I'll give you a call this evening after work. In the meantime, here's some notes on how I set mine up, and where you can get some more info.<br />
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Hardware: <a href="https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/product-page/copy-of-can-usb-interface" target="_blank">https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/product-page/copy-of-can-usb-interface</a><br />
Software: <a href="https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/software" target="_blank">https://www.scs-delta.co.uk/software</a><br />
Documentation: <a href="http://www.sxtune.co.uk/deltalog.html" target="_blank">http://www.sxtune.co.uk/deltalog.html</a><br />
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During the installation of the software on my PC, I chose "DeltaGDI4" out of the list, which was the default. The only other one that looked like it could be applicable was "TornadoGDI", which I did not chose.<br />
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Also, on my machine a "Microchip Technology Inc" driver gets installed. I'm running Windows 10.<br />
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N63PZ Hey Patrick, You are the only…tag:zenith.aero,2018-03-15:2606393:Comment:6190192018-03-15T04:17:50.064ZSamuel Warnerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/SamWarner
<p>Hey Patrick, <br></br>You are the only one I know of so far that's been using the data logger, and I've been having trouble getting it to work. Would you mind calling me at your convince? You can reach me at (907) 227-3825.<br></br>Regards,<br></br>Sam<br></br><br></br>This is what it looks like if anyone is curious.…<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2171040934?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2171040934?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a></p>
<p>Hey Patrick, <br/>You are the only one I know of so far that's been using the data logger, and I've been having trouble getting it to work. Would you mind calling me at your convince? You can reach me at (907) 227-3825.<br/>Regards,<br/>Sam<br/><br/>This is what it looks like if anyone is curious.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2171040934?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2171040934?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p> Thank you Patrick. Glad to k…tag:zenith.aero,2018-03-15:2606393:Comment:6191882018-03-15T03:40:41.926ZSamuel Warnerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/SamWarner
<p>Thank you Patrick. Glad to know the SD card is sufficiently sized.<br/><br/>I'll probably do something similar with the base file name.</p>
<p>Thank you Patrick. Glad to know the SD card is sufficiently sized.<br/><br/>I'll probably do something similar with the base file name.</p> I don't recall that I HAD to…tag:zenith.aero,2018-03-14:2606393:Comment:6187242018-03-14T11:47:14.749ZPatrick Hoythttps://zenith.aero/profile/PatrickHoyt
<p>I don't recall that I HAD to format the SD card when it was brand-new, but I know that I have since then, just out of habit. </p>
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<p>The data files (for my short test flights of about 30 minutes) are quite small compared to the large size of the SD card, so I think I'll just let it keep logging. I don't know what the actual maximum file size would be, but from a realistic perspective it's going to be limited to the length of time that the engine runs.</p>
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<p>Each time the…</p>
<p>I don't recall that I HAD to format the SD card when it was brand-new, but I know that I have since then, just out of habit. </p>
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<p>The data files (for my short test flights of about 30 minutes) are quite small compared to the large size of the SD card, so I think I'll just let it keep logging. I don't know what the actual maximum file size would be, but from a realistic perspective it's going to be limited to the length of time that the engine runs.</p>
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<p>Each time the engine starts a new data file is created, and is named sequentially. For example, if today's flight was written to "N63PZ_0000.DTD", then the next flight would be written to "N63PZ_0001.DTD", and the flight after that would be written to "N63PZ_0002.DTD", and so forth.</p>
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<p>If you use a different SD card (or reformat your old one), then it would re-start the file name numbers back at the beginning - "N63PZ_0000.DTD" for example. You can tell the data logger to name the files differently if you wanted to. Not a big deal either way.</p>
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<p>I think what I'll do going forward is just let it keep logging sequentially. If my quick calculations are correct, it'll take around 2200 hours of engine run time to fill up the 8Gb SD card (that comes with the logger) at the rate that I'm saving data to it. I'm sure there are other considerations or limitations that would come into play long before the SD card is filled up.</p>
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<p>Patrick Hoyt</p>
<p>N63PZ</p>
<p></p> Did you have to format the SD…tag:zenith.aero,2018-03-14:2606393:Comment:6188452018-03-14T05:24:49.176ZSamuel Warnerhttps://zenith.aero/profile/SamWarner
<p>Did you have to format the SD card for the data logger?</p>
<p>Did you have to format the SD card for the data logger?</p>